Pastor Colin asserts his belief in hell based on the teachings of Jesus Christ, stating that this doctrine is not a medieval invention but clearly articulated by Jesus himself. Pastor Colin references biblical teachings that talk about the reality of hell, asserting that if one believes Jesus’s teachings about heaven, they must also accept his teachings about hell.

Pastor Colin explains that his church’s doctrine includes a belief in eternal conscious punishment for unbelievers and eternal blessedness for believers. He encourages the congregation to think deeply about their beliefs in heaven and hell, as these concepts have eternal significance.

In his sermon, Pastor Colin outlines his objective to present what Jesus says about hell and address two difficult questions: why hell must be eternal, and how a Christian can be happy in heaven knowing loved ones might be in hell. He plans to discuss hell as a place of punishment, destruction, and exclusion.

Pastor Colin delineates hell as a place of punishment where real sins are remembered and punished. The punishment is unique to each individual, reflected by their ‘worm’ that does not die and the eternal fire. Additionally, he describes hell as a place of destruction, where souls and bodies cannot fulfil the functions for which they were created, and a place of exclusion, eternally separated from God’s presence.

Addressing the question of why hell is eternal, Pastor Colin posits that sinners never stop sinning, even in hell, as they continuously hate God. Therefore, eternal punishment reflects the unending nature of their sin. He stresses the tragic nature of sin which leaves the sinner incapable of happiness in either heaven or hell.

1 00:00:00,000 –> 00:00:04,740 Well, folks, you’ll understand that the task that I have before me today is the most 2 00:00:04,740 –> 00:00:08,740 difficult one that is given to any preacher. 3 00:00:08,740 –> 00:00:14,040 We’ve been looking at the inside story of future life, death, resurrection, judgment, 4 00:00:14,040 –> 00:00:18,540 and as we come towards the end of the series we’re looking this week at the subject of 5 00:00:18,540 –> 00:00:23,260 hell and next week, I can’t wait for that to come, the subject of heaven. 6 00:00:23,260 –> 00:00:26,600 I look forward to that so much. 7 00:00:26,719 –> 00:00:35,099 Every person who has ever lived will personally experience either heaven or hell. 8 00:00:35,099 –> 00:00:39,000 Nobody will experience both. 9 00:00:39,000 –> 00:00:41,040 All will experience one or the other. 10 00:00:41,040 –> 00:00:47,360 You will experience heaven or you will experience hell, and that is true for every person you 11 00:00:47,360 –> 00:00:50,959 know and meet. 12 00:00:50,959 –> 00:00:56,200 All of us therefore need to hear about hell, either as a warning with regards to where 13 00:00:56,299 –> 00:01:03,299 you are heading or else as an appreciation of what it is that you have been saved from. 14 00:01:05,019 –> 00:01:10,279 I believe in hell because I cannot escape the clarity with which our Lord Jesus Christ 15 00:01:10,279 –> 00:01:12,220 spoke about it. 16 00:01:12,220 –> 00:01:16,720 Hell was not the invention of sick medieval minds. 17 00:01:16,720 –> 00:01:18,379 If it was, we could dismiss it. 18 00:01:18,379 –> 00:01:23,760 And you know, folks, that many, many, many churches are dismissing it today and not holding 19 00:01:23,860 –> 00:01:27,300 to this truth that Jesus clearly spoke about. 20 00:01:27,300 –> 00:01:31,559 But the inescapable fact is that the clearest teaching in all of the Bible on this subject 21 00:01:31,559 –> 00:01:36,239 does not come from the Old Testament or from the book of Revelation, the clearest and most 22 00:01:36,239 –> 00:01:43,500 frequent teaching on this subject comes directly from the lips of our Lord Jesus Christ. 23 00:01:43,500 –> 00:01:47,000 And Jesus defines truth for me. 24 00:01:47,000 –> 00:01:50,779 I hope he does for you, he said, I am the truth. 25 00:01:50,779 –> 00:01:58,180 And I take him for truth in relation to heaven and therefore I must take him for truth in 26 00:01:58,180 –> 00:02:01,980 relation to hell. 27 00:02:01,980 –> 00:02:05,459 As a church we believe in hell. 28 00:02:05,459 –> 00:02:09,940 If you are a member of this church, you will have expressed your agreement at some point 29 00:02:09,940 –> 00:02:14,740 to the statement of faith that describes the great doctrines of the Christian faith that 30 00:02:14,740 –> 00:02:20,759 we hold in common as a congregation and to which we bear witness in the world. 31 00:02:20,759 –> 00:02:24,039 And in that statement of faith, if you’re going into the membership class and coming 32 00:02:24,039 –> 00:02:27,479 in as a new member of the church, you’ll have an opportunity to review this. 33 00:02:27,479 –> 00:02:32,580 You’ll be asked if this is something that you too are able to uphold and to agree with 34 00:02:32,580 –> 00:02:34,160 and to believe. 35 00:02:34,160 –> 00:02:35,160 And we say this. 36 00:02:35,160 –> 00:02:42,279 That we believe that God will raise the dead bodily and judge the world assigning the unbeliever 37 00:02:42,679 –> 00:02:51,220 condemnation and eternal conscious punishment, and the believer to eternal blessedness and 38 00:02:51,220 –> 00:02:56,160 joy with our Lord, the statement of faith of our church, we bear witness to these truths 39 00:02:56,160 –> 00:03:02,759 because we find them in the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ. 40 00:03:02,759 –> 00:03:10,800 Now, we need sometimes to just stop and say, do I really believe in heaven? 41 00:03:10,800 –> 00:03:15,600 So I really believe in hell. 42 00:03:15,600 –> 00:03:18,940 We’re not thinking about these things all the time, folks. 43 00:03:18,940 –> 00:03:21,800 But we are thinking about them today. 44 00:03:21,800 –> 00:03:27,320 And we need to be thinking about them sometimes because they are eternal in their scope, and 45 00:03:27,320 –> 00:03:31,199 nothing carries greater weight, therefore, than this. 46 00:03:31,199 –> 00:03:36,919 Now, I have set myself a discipline for today, and I have asked the Lord for his help in 47 00:03:36,960 –> 00:03:38,360 this regard. 48 00:03:38,360 –> 00:03:45,779 And that discipline is to be measured in everything that I say to you from the pulpit today. 49 00:03:45,779 –> 00:03:51,940 My aim is very simply to show you and to explain as best I can what our Lord Jesus says in 50 00:03:51,940 –> 00:03:52,940 relation to hell. 51 00:03:52,940 –> 00:03:57,559 I want you to see his words and to hear what your Lord says. 52 00:03:57,559 –> 00:04:03,279 Second, I want to attempt an answer to two of the most difficult questions, questions 53 00:04:03,320 –> 00:04:08,100 that I have asked and that some of you have asked of me at different times. 54 00:04:08,100 –> 00:04:11,139 One is, why is it that hell has to be forever? 55 00:04:11,139 –> 00:04:13,699 That’s a huge question. 56 00:04:13,699 –> 00:04:19,160 And another is how could a Christian possibly be happy in heaven if he or she knows that 57 00:04:19,160 –> 00:04:21,239 they have a loved one who is in hell? 58 00:04:21,239 –> 00:04:26,399 That’s one of the biggest questions I think any Christian faces and you will have asked 59 00:04:26,399 –> 00:04:28,480 that question as I have. 60 00:04:28,600 –> 00:04:34,380 And then I want to point you to Jesus Christ, as we try to do every week here, to point 61 00:04:34,380 –> 00:04:39,940 you to Him as the one who endured hell on the cross, so that you should never know from 62 00:04:39,940 –> 00:04:43,239 experience what it is like. 63 00:04:43,239 –> 00:04:49,519 Now, having said this, however careful, however measured the statement of this truth, there 64 00:04:49,519 –> 00:04:52,880 is no way in which we can avoid its horror. 65 00:04:53,200 –> 00:04:55,279 Dr. Jim Packer says, 66 00:04:55,279 –> 00:05:05,040 The New Testament teaching about hell is meant to appall us and to strike us dumb with horror, 67 00:05:05,040 –> 00:05:11,480 assuring us that as heaven will be better than anyone could dream, so hell will be worse 68 00:05:11,480 –> 00:05:15,559 than anyone could conceive. 69 00:05:15,559 –> 00:05:18,839 But we need to hear this truth. 70 00:05:18,839 –> 00:05:23,279 I know that some people, and this is increasingly the case in our culture and the culture always 71 00:05:23,279 –> 00:05:26,839 seeps in somehow to the church, so you hear it around the church a lot as well. 72 00:05:26,839 –> 00:05:31,000 There are people who will say the only thing that should ever be heard or spoken of in 73 00:05:31,000 –> 00:05:33,279 church is love. 74 00:05:33,279 –> 00:05:34,480 Love is all we need. 75 00:05:34,480 –> 00:05:39,079 That was the Beatles, not the Bible by the way. 76 00:05:39,079 –> 00:05:42,640 But you know maybe you said that, maybe you thought that. 77 00:05:42,640 –> 00:05:48,640 Well, people who are greatly loved sometimes do terrible, terrible things. 78 00:05:48,640 –> 00:05:50,779 You know that. 79 00:05:50,779 –> 00:05:56,480 And so the Bible gives to us a broader range of what we need to hear. 80 00:05:56,480 –> 00:06:04,359 That’s why Paul says on one occasion, knowing the fear of the Lord we seek to persuade others. 81 00:06:04,359 –> 00:06:08,440 So there’s a place for that in the life of a Christian believer. 82 00:06:08,440 –> 00:06:16,720 I’m just going to take it as foundational and obvious that every word that my Lord Jesus 83 00:06:17,079 –> 00:06:20,179 spoke is a word that I need to hear. 84 00:06:20,179 –> 00:06:21,220 Would you agree with that? 85 00:06:21,220 –> 00:06:23,859 There are no redundant words of Jesus. 86 00:06:23,859 –> 00:06:29,200 There are no words of Jesus that are not for us and so on this occasion I draw your attention 87 00:06:29,200 –> 00:06:34,399 to these most difficult and yet most important words of Jesus. 88 00:06:34,399 –> 00:06:39,700 Now there are really three strands to the teaching of Jesus in relation to hell. 89 00:06:39,700 –> 00:06:42,339 Let me give them to you and then we’ll look at each. 90 00:06:42,339 –> 00:06:45,679 Hell is a place of punishment, that’s number one. 91 00:06:45,679 –> 00:06:49,160 Hell is a place of destruction, that’s number two. 92 00:06:49,160 –> 00:06:53,579 And hell is a place of exclusion, that is number three. 93 00:06:53,579 –> 00:06:55,339 Let’s begin here. 94 00:06:55,339 –> 00:06:58,220 Hell is a place of punishment. 95 00:06:58,220 –> 00:07:00,720 Matthew chapter 25 and verse 46. 96 00:07:00,720 –> 00:07:04,260 We looked at this scripture already last week. 97 00:07:04,260 –> 00:07:10,359 Our Lord speaks of the day of judgment and then He says these will go away into eternal 98 00:07:10,380 –> 00:07:13,079 punishment. 99 00:07:13,079 –> 00:07:16,839 But the righteous into eternal life. 100 00:07:16,839 –> 00:07:24,880 So I’m simply drawing your attention now to this fact that Jesus speaks about punishment. 101 00:07:24,880 –> 00:07:29,660 Now there will be some people today who will say, well I don’t believe in punishment, I 102 00:07:29,660 –> 00:07:32,339 only believe in correction. 103 00:07:32,339 –> 00:07:38,359 Well, if you say that, I can only say to you that at this point you have a disagreement 104 00:07:38,359 –> 00:07:40,339 with Jesus. 105 00:07:40,339 –> 00:07:42,739 Because Jesus speaks about punishment. 106 00:07:42,739 –> 00:07:48,480 And not only about punishment, he speaks about punishment that is eternal. 107 00:07:48,480 –> 00:07:53,239 That’s what my Lord said. 108 00:07:53,239 –> 00:08:00,880 Now God is just, and that means that he never punishes in an arbitrary kind of way. 109 00:08:00,880 –> 00:08:05,480 And so the words of Jesus that were read to us in Mark Chapter 9 are very important. 110 00:08:05,480 –> 00:08:07,859 Look at verse 42 there. 111 00:08:07,859 –> 00:08:15,380 Jesus says if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be 112 00:08:15,380 –> 00:08:20,980 better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck. 113 00:08:20,980 –> 00:08:26,359 And you say, why would it be better for this person who has committed this sin to have 114 00:08:26,359 –> 00:08:30,839 been thrown into the sea earlier with a great millstone around his neck? 115 00:08:30,839 –> 00:08:32,900 You see what Jesus is saying? 116 00:08:32,900 –> 00:08:36,460 He’s saying terrible things are done in this world. 117 00:08:36,700 –> 00:08:43,359 Especially to children and a large part of it is never brought to justice here. 118 00:08:43,359 –> 00:08:47,599 But Jesus is saying you need to know that God will bring it to justice, nobody hurts 119 00:08:47,599 –> 00:08:50,039 a child and gets away with it. 120 00:08:50,039 –> 00:08:57,940 Now he says understand this, it would be better for the person who sinned against the child 121 00:08:57,940 –> 00:09:02,020 to have died before he or she did that. 122 00:09:02,200 –> 00:09:06,760 You say well I understand it would have been better for the child if the person who had 123 00:09:06,760 –> 00:09:12,020 perpetrated this thing had died first, but how is it better for the person who perpetrated 124 00:09:12,020 –> 00:09:14,760 the act to have died first. 125 00:09:14,760 –> 00:09:22,580 Here’s what Jesus is saying, the punishment experienced by a person in hell will be a 126 00:09:22,580 –> 00:09:29,520 direct reflection of the particular sins that they have committed. 127 00:09:29,619 –> 00:09:34,080 The person in hell will be punished for sins they did not commit, and if the person Jesus 128 00:09:34,080 –> 00:09:40,119 is speaking about had been drowned in the sea before he or she had offended against 129 00:09:40,119 –> 00:09:46,000 this child, it would be better for him because that person would have one less sin to deal 130 00:09:46,000 –> 00:09:49,000 with in hell. 131 00:09:49,000 –> 00:09:57,000 And a person in hell, friends, would give anything to have one less sin to deal with. 132 00:09:57,200 –> 00:10:00,380 You see that makes us sit up and take notice. 133 00:10:00,380 –> 00:10:07,380 Jesus is talking about real punishment for real sins that are named, that are dated and 134 00:10:07,440 –> 00:10:10,940 that are remembered by God. 135 00:10:10,940 –> 00:10:15,400 That’s why the Bible says on the last day the books are opened. 136 00:10:15,400 –> 00:10:21,320 And people are judged according to what they have done. 137 00:10:21,320 –> 00:10:23,479 So hell is a place of punishment. 138 00:10:23,479 –> 00:10:26,219 You have the word of Jesus for that. 139 00:10:26,219 –> 00:10:32,559 Now, the punishment, and we’re still in Mark and Chapter Nine, according to Jesus, comes 140 00:10:32,559 –> 00:10:34,359 in two ways. 141 00:10:34,359 –> 00:10:41,280 First, in verse 48 Jesus says, Their worm does not die. 142 00:10:41,280 –> 00:10:44,880 Now, notice it’s not THE worm. 143 00:10:44,880 –> 00:10:48,539 It’s THEIR worm. 144 00:10:48,559 –> 00:10:55,580 In other words, Jesus is talking about something that is unique and special to every individual 145 00:10:55,580 –> 00:10:59,900 in hell, THEIR worm that’s personal, you see. 146 00:10:59,900 –> 00:11:01,820 Now, what does a worm do? 147 00:11:01,820 –> 00:11:04,340 A worm eats away at the inside. 148 00:11:04,340 –> 00:11:13,539 And that which eats away at the inside of a person is conscience. 149 00:11:13,539 –> 00:11:18,380 It does not always do that in this world, because so often it is suppressed. 150 00:11:18,380 –> 00:11:23,760 But what our Lord is teaching us here is that conscience will be fully activated in hell, 151 00:11:23,760 –> 00:11:28,000 that a person in hell will live with the full knowledge of what they have done. 152 00:11:28,000 –> 00:11:32,979 And Jesus says, THEIR worm, it’s personal because it’s the full knowledge of what they 153 00:11:32,979 –> 00:11:36,320 have done and unique to each individual. 154 00:11:36,320 –> 00:11:41,080 THEIR worm does not die. 155 00:11:41,080 –> 00:11:43,679 It never diminishes. 156 00:11:43,679 –> 00:11:46,479 And it never ends. 157 00:11:46,559 –> 00:11:50,440 And then Jesus says, THEE fire is not quenched. 158 00:11:50,440 –> 00:11:55,700 So while their worm is particular to each individual in hell because it’s a direct 159 00:11:55,700 –> 00:12:01,500 reflection of their full knowledge of all that each individual there has done, THEEE 160 00:12:01,500 –> 00:12:07,619 fire is general to all and reminds us, of course, that the Bible often says, our God 161 00:12:07,619 –> 00:12:09,760 is a consuming fire. 162 00:12:09,760 –> 00:12:15,559 A person in hell lives under the judgment of God who is the consuming fire forever. 163 00:12:15,640 –> 00:12:26,400 In other words, just as the presence of God will be heaven to some, the presence of God 164 00:12:26,400 –> 00:12:29,859 will be hell to others. 165 00:12:29,859 –> 00:12:36,200 If you have come to love the Lord with your heart and to be a worshipper of Him, then 166 00:12:36,200 –> 00:12:40,039 He will be heaven to you. 167 00:12:40,039 –> 00:12:46,039 And if you live your life resisting and pushing away the God who made you, then for all eternity 168 00:12:46,039 –> 00:12:49,659 that God will be hell to you. 169 00:12:49,659 –> 00:12:52,340 The fire is not quenched. 170 00:12:52,340 –> 00:13:00,080 So hell is a place of punishment and that is the first strand in the teaching of Jesus. 171 00:13:00,080 –> 00:13:04,359 Just as we will see that heaven is spoken of in a number of ways in order to give us 172 00:13:04,419 –> 00:13:11,159 a full picture of the truth, so we find today that there is more that Jesus says about hell. 173 00:13:11,159 –> 00:13:15,159 And so secondly, hell is a place of destruction. 174 00:13:15,159 –> 00:13:16,419 It’s a place of destruction. 175 00:13:16,419 –> 00:13:20,140 Again, I’m quoting simply the words of Jesus. 176 00:13:20,140 –> 00:13:22,679 Matthew 10, 28. 177 00:13:22,679 –> 00:13:30,099 Our Lord says, do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. 178 00:13:30,099 –> 00:13:32,059 Rather, fear Him. 179 00:13:32,059 –> 00:13:41,859 Jesus said this, fear Him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. 180 00:13:41,859 –> 00:13:45,719 Now, this leads to a very important question. 181 00:13:45,719 –> 00:13:49,760 What is meant by the word destroy? 182 00:13:49,760 –> 00:13:53,859 And you will know that some Christians have suggested that if the body and the soul are 183 00:13:53,859 –> 00:13:59,919 destroyed in hell, could this mean that the body and soul of a person ceases to exist 184 00:13:59,940 –> 00:14:00,940 in hell? 185 00:14:00,940 –> 00:14:05,659 That in some way, hell as it were burns itself out, after a period of time, that the punishment 186 00:14:05,659 –> 00:14:11,020 will come to an end, and it will end at the point where the body and the soul are destroyed? 187 00:14:11,020 –> 00:14:17,260 You will have heard that suggested, and you need to know as someone who upholds the teaching 188 00:14:17,260 –> 00:14:23,119 of Jesus, how you can answer questions along these lines when they come to you. 189 00:14:23,119 –> 00:14:29,539 The same question is raised from the best known verse in all of the Bible, John 3 16, 190 00:14:29,539 –> 00:14:36,239 you can say it with me, for God so loved the world, that He gave His one and only Son, 191 00:14:36,239 –> 00:14:40,260 that whoever believes in Him should not perish. 192 00:14:40,260 –> 00:14:45,159 Now, what is the meaning of the word perish? 193 00:14:45,159 –> 00:14:51,719 Some are asking this question, does this mean that in some way the soul or the body goes 194 00:14:51,719 –> 00:14:56,559 out of existence, is that what the word perish means? 195 00:14:56,559 –> 00:15:01,700 So this is a very important question, do the words destroy or perish mean that the body 196 00:15:01,700 –> 00:15:08,159 and soul at some point may cease to exist in hell, and the answer I’m going to give 197 00:15:08,159 –> 00:15:12,619 to you to that question is, no, it does not mean that. 198 00:15:12,619 –> 00:15:17,940 Doug Moo, great theologian – who for many years taught just up the road here at Trinity 199 00:15:17,940 –> 00:15:24,760 Seminary – Doug Moo points out that the word destruction in the bible often refers 200 00:15:24,760 –> 00:15:32,059 to the situation of a person or an object that has lost the essence of its nature and 201 00:15:32,059 –> 00:15:33,059 function. 202 00:15:33,059 –> 00:15:38,859 What he means by that is simply, here’s something or someone that is no longer in 203 00:15:38,859 –> 00:15:44,559 a position to do what it or they were made to do. 204 00:15:44,559 –> 00:15:48,979 And he gives a number of examples and I think this will make his point clear to you. 205 00:15:48,979 –> 00:15:53,539 Do you remember when Jesus spoke about the wine and the wine skins? 206 00:15:53,599 –> 00:15:58,739 And he said, you don’t put new wine in old wine skins. 207 00:15:58,760 –> 00:16:03,539 Because if you do, if you do put new wine in old wine skins, the wine will be spilled 208 00:16:03,539 –> 00:16:09,520 and the skins will be destroyed. 209 00:16:09,520 –> 00:16:11,640 Now think about it, what’s he saying? 210 00:16:11,640 –> 00:16:17,760 He does not mean that the old wine skin ceases to exist, he’s saying that the old wine 211 00:16:17,760 –> 00:16:22,820 skin, because it bursts and now has holes in it, it is no longer able to fulfill the 212 00:16:22,859 –> 00:16:26,599 function for which it was made, which is to hold wine. 213 00:16:26,599 –> 00:16:30,460 It’s useless, it cannot fulfill the function for which it was made. 214 00:16:30,460 –> 00:16:31,599 It’s destroyed. 215 00:16:31,599 –> 00:16:36,619 And that’s exactly the same word that Jesus is using in Matthew’s gospel when he says 216 00:16:36,619 –> 00:16:41,320 that fear him who can destroy the soul and the body in hell. 217 00:16:41,320 –> 00:16:43,919 You say, well that’s one example, I’ve got more coming. 218 00:16:43,919 –> 00:16:49,820 Do you remember the story about the woman who poured ointment over Jesus? 219 00:16:49,820 –> 00:16:54,679 And someone said why was the ointment wasted? 220 00:16:54,679 –> 00:17:00,799 The word wasted is exactly the same word that Jesus uses here for destroyed, the destroying 221 00:17:00,799 –> 00:17:02,700 of the soul and the body. 222 00:17:02,700 –> 00:17:06,780 It means the same thing, wasted, in the sense that it cannot fulfil the very function for 223 00:17:06,780 –> 00:17:07,780 which it was made. 224 00:17:07,780 –> 00:17:12,140 At least that was the opinion of the person who said that, and that’s what this word 225 00:17:12,140 –> 00:17:13,140 means. 226 00:17:13,140 –> 00:17:16,359 Destroyed, no longer able to fulfil its function. 227 00:17:16,359 –> 00:17:18,939 Wasted, no longer able to do what it was meant to do. 228 00:17:18,979 –> 00:17:21,800 You remember the story of the lost coin? 229 00:17:21,800 –> 00:17:26,280 A woman, Luke 15, she loses a coin and Jesus tells this story. 230 00:17:26,280 –> 00:17:30,380 She finds it, and then she says to her friends and neighbours, rejoice with me for I have 231 00:17:30,380 –> 00:17:34,579 found the coin that I had lost. 232 00:17:34,579 –> 00:17:38,900 And the word that Jesus uses for lost there is exactly the same as the word that he used 233 00:17:38,900 –> 00:17:41,339 for destroy the soul and the body being destroyed. 234 00:17:41,339 –> 00:17:44,000 See, it’s what that we saying. 235 00:17:44,000 –> 00:17:46,540 It can’t fulfil its function. 236 00:17:46,540 –> 00:17:50,319 What use is a coin that has value because you’re able to buy things with it? 237 00:17:50,319 –> 00:17:53,040 But when it’s lost, it’s no use to you. 238 00:17:53,040 –> 00:17:57,459 You can’t buy stuff in the shops with a lost coin and so this woman rejoices when she finds 239 00:17:57,459 –> 00:18:06,640 it because now it can be restored to its usefulness before it was lost, destroyed, lost, wasted. 240 00:18:06,640 –> 00:18:09,959 It’s the same word. 241 00:18:09,959 –> 00:18:16,219 When Peter speaks in second Peter chapter 3 and verse 6 about the flood and he says 242 00:18:16,219 –> 00:18:25,180 this, the world that then existed was deluged with water and it perished. 243 00:18:25,180 –> 00:18:27,780 So there’s your perish word here. 244 00:18:27,780 –> 00:18:32,579 Second Peter chapter 3 into 2, it perished and that’s the same word that Jesus used for 245 00:18:32,579 –> 00:18:35,680 the soul and the body being destroyed in hell. 246 00:18:35,680 –> 00:18:36,680 Perished. 247 00:18:36,680 –> 00:18:38,699 It should not perish. 248 00:18:38,699 –> 00:18:39,699 But think about it. 249 00:18:39,699 –> 00:18:46,040 Peter is not saying at the time of the flood that the planet ceased to exist. 250 00:18:46,040 –> 00:18:49,839 What he’s saying is simply that the planet couldn’t fulfill its normal function of sustaining 251 00:18:49,839 –> 00:18:57,640 life until the waters in the grace and the mercy of God subsided. 252 00:18:57,640 –> 00:18:58,640 So here’s the point. 253 00:18:58,640 –> 00:19:04,640 Wine skins with holes, ointment that’s said to be wasted, a coin that was said to be lost, 254 00:19:04,640 –> 00:19:11,479 a world that perished in the flood, none of these things ceased to exist, what all of 255 00:19:11,640 –> 00:19:17,540 them have in common was that they were no longer in the position to fulfil the function 256 00:19:17,540 –> 00:19:20,939 for which they were made. 257 00:19:20,939 –> 00:19:28,500 So for a soul or for a body to be destroyed does not mean that a person will cease to 258 00:19:28,500 –> 00:19:38,020 exist, it means that the person cannot fulfil the function for which a human being was created. 259 00:19:38,060 –> 00:19:41,760 That’s the tragic loss of hell. 260 00:19:41,760 –> 00:19:48,140 William still says the awful thing about hell is the knowing, burning, searing agony of 261 00:19:48,140 –> 00:19:52,180 its unfulfillment. 262 00:19:52,180 –> 00:20:03,400 Life in that living death will be one huge aching void because a person who lives for 263 00:20:03,760 –> 00:20:07,640 himself ultimately cannot satisfy himself. 264 00:20:07,640 –> 00:20:10,479 Cannot. 265 00:20:10,479 –> 00:20:13,640 So it’s a place of punishment, second, it’s a place of destruction. 266 00:20:13,640 –> 00:20:14,839 Here’s the third thing. 267 00:20:14,839 –> 00:20:21,439 From the teaching of Jesus it is a place of exclusion, now again Matthew chapter 25, our 268 00:20:21,439 –> 00:20:28,180 Lord will say to those on his left and these are the words of Jesus, depart from me, you 269 00:20:28,880 –> 00:20:35,880 cursed, into the eternal fire, prepared for the devil and his angels, what an awful statement 270 00:20:36,660 –> 00:20:38,900 that is. 271 00:20:38,900 –> 00:20:42,660 To hear Jesus say depart from me. 272 00:20:42,660 –> 00:20:48,819 Now this is the language of Jesus and while punishment and destruction obviously speak 273 00:20:48,819 –> 00:20:55,819 of what a person suffers, this language of exclusion, depart from me, speaks of what 274 00:20:55,900 –> 00:20:58,819 a person misses. 275 00:20:58,819 –> 00:21:05,260 So Jesus tells the story, you remember, about the wedding banquet and how people were invited 276 00:21:05,260 –> 00:21:09,160 and called to come and to be guest at the banquet. 277 00:21:09,160 –> 00:21:13,619 And when everyone was gathered in and the banquet began, there’s the lights and there’s 278 00:21:13,619 –> 00:21:17,199 the music and there’s the joy and there’s the feasting. 279 00:21:17,199 –> 00:21:27,979 And then Jesus said, but outside, outside there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing 280 00:21:27,979 –> 00:21:28,979 of teeth. 281 00:21:28,979 –> 00:21:30,380 That’s what Jesus said. 282 00:21:30,380 –> 00:21:33,260 Those who refuse the invitation. 283 00:21:33,260 –> 00:21:36,439 And they’re now outside. 284 00:21:36,439 –> 00:21:40,459 And the book of Revelation, the very end of the Bible, the last chapter of the Bible 285 00:21:40,459 –> 00:21:41,459 same thing. 286 00:21:41,459 –> 00:21:46,780 It pictures the great city and all its light and all its joy and all its happiness and 287 00:21:46,839 –> 00:21:48,579 the presence of God there. 288 00:21:48,579 –> 00:21:52,219 And then it says, and outside, outside. 289 00:21:52,219 –> 00:22:03,280 And then describes those who miss out on what to the redeemed, this pure joy and pure glory. 290 00:22:03,280 –> 00:22:14,500 Now friends, as terrible as the doctrine of hell is, we should be very, very thankful 291 00:22:14,500 –> 00:22:19,579 that hell will always be outside of heaven. 292 00:22:19,579 –> 00:22:26,979 You think what one sin in Adam, through the blood stream of the human race, has done by 293 00:22:26,979 –> 00:22:29,540 way of bringing absolute devastation to our world. 294 00:22:29,540 –> 00:22:37,260 You think of all the evil and all the slaughter and all the violence and all the pain that 295 00:22:37,260 –> 00:22:42,020 has plagued the history of this world. 296 00:22:42,020 –> 00:22:48,020 God had his gracious reason for allowing one sin to come into the world and for his ordering 297 00:22:48,020 –> 00:22:49,180 of the history of the world. 298 00:22:49,180 –> 00:22:57,420 It is through this that he has revealed his glory, his mercy, in the Redeemer, Jesus Christ, 299 00:22:57,420 –> 00:23:01,959 the glory of the Lamb will be forever and forever and forever. 300 00:23:01,959 –> 00:23:08,500 But you can be sure, and at this point you should be glad, that hell will always be outside 301 00:23:08,859 –> 00:23:10,099 of heaven. 302 00:23:10,099 –> 00:23:16,579 That not one sin or even the possibility of sin will ever enter in there. 303 00:23:16,579 –> 00:23:25,699 William still says this, hell he says will be a completely isolated and insulated realm 304 00:23:25,699 –> 00:23:34,540 for the absolute containment of all evil when it is eventually finally banished from God’s 305 00:23:34,540 –> 00:23:36,020 kingdom. 306 00:23:36,800 –> 00:23:44,540 It will be outside heaven forever, because in the new heaven and in the new earth sin 307 00:23:44,540 –> 00:23:48,939 will be no more. 308 00:23:48,939 –> 00:23:51,979 That’s the promise of God. 309 00:23:51,979 –> 00:23:57,459 Now three strands to the teaching of Jesus on the subject of hell. 310 00:23:57,459 –> 00:24:01,459 You will not find anything clearer anywhere in the Bible. 311 00:24:01,459 –> 00:24:03,819 I wanted you to hear it from the lips of Jesus. 312 00:24:04,439 –> 00:24:07,300 Your Lord and I hope your Savior. 313 00:24:07,319 –> 00:24:12,439 There is one verse in the New Testament in which the apostle Paul brings all three strands 314 00:24:12,439 –> 00:24:18,439 of the teaching of Jesus together in one place and it’s worth noting for that reason, and 315 00:24:18,439 –> 00:24:24,400 that is 2 Thessalonians 1, where the apostle drawing together everything that the Lord 316 00:24:24,400 –> 00:24:31,420 Jesus said under the inspiration of the Spirit said, they will suffer the punishment — there’s 317 00:24:31,479 –> 00:24:38,479 the first — of eternal destruction — there’s the second — away from the presence of the 318 00:24:38,479 –> 00:24:44,540 Lord — there’s the third — and from the glory of his might. 319 00:24:44,819 –> 00:24:51,839 That’s the Bible’s teaching and especially the teaching of Jesus about hell. 320 00:24:51,839 –> 00:24:58,339 Now, folks in the time that remains, I want us to consider two questions that you must 321 00:24:58,400 –> 00:25:03,060 have thought about, that I’ve thought about, many times and it’s important for us to engage 322 00:25:03,060 –> 00:25:04,780 with them. 323 00:25:04,780 –> 00:25:08,599 The first is, why does hell have to be forever? 324 00:25:08,599 –> 00:25:10,900 You must have thought about this. 325 00:25:10,900 –> 00:25:16,439 Is it not reasonable that the punishment, the destruction and the exclusion — is it 326 00:25:16,439 –> 00:25:21,780 not reasonable that this should last for a time but then at some point, surely, it would 327 00:25:21,780 –> 00:25:23,699 come to an end? 328 00:25:24,280 –> 00:25:28,319 Why does hell have to be forever? 329 00:25:28,319 –> 00:25:34,020 And there are many things that could be said, but let me say this one thing for you to consider. 330 00:25:34,020 –> 00:25:41,760 Hell goes on forever because sinners never stop sinning. 331 00:25:41,760 –> 00:25:47,380 Hell goes on forever because sinners never stop sinning. 332 00:25:47,560 –> 00:25:56,160 You find this in the book of Revelation, that on as the judgment comes, sinners hate God 333 00:25:56,160 –> 00:26:00,420 even more than they did before. 334 00:26:00,420 –> 00:26:05,140 Revelation 16 and verse 10, people nod their tongues in anguish and they curse the God 335 00:26:05,140 –> 00:26:12,800 of heaven for their pains and for their sours, and they did not repent of their deeds. 336 00:26:13,099 –> 00:26:17,400 The sinner cannot change his heart. 337 00:26:17,400 –> 00:26:22,199 The sinner cannot bring himself to love God. 338 00:26:22,199 –> 00:26:27,060 Nobody will be repenting in hell. 339 00:26:27,060 –> 00:26:33,380 The heart of the sinner does not grow softer in hell, or kinder. 340 00:26:33,380 –> 00:26:37,819 If you think that the end of sin for the sinner is the end of this life, you have really 341 00:26:37,819 –> 00:26:42,140 not thought very deeply about the subject of sin itself. 342 00:26:42,619 –> 00:26:50,420 In hell the sinner is directly in the company of the devil and his angels, Jesus says. 343 00:26:52,160 –> 00:26:57,660 And in that company sin will sink more deeply into the sinner, and the sinner will sink 344 00:26:57,660 –> 00:27:01,400 more deeply into sin. 345 00:27:01,400 –> 00:27:08,140 And any remnants of compassion or care for other people that were there going in, will 346 00:27:08,140 –> 00:27:14,500 get less and less and less as sin does its ongoing work of making a person more, and 347 00:27:14,500 –> 00:27:18,060 more, and more, and more absorbed with themselves. 348 00:27:20,020 –> 00:27:23,680 Hell goes on forever because sinners never stop hating. 349 00:27:23,680 –> 00:27:29,420 They hate God more, and more, and more, and never, never, never less. 350 00:27:31,160 –> 00:27:33,680 That’s why sin is such a frightening, deadly disease. 351 00:27:33,680 –> 00:27:35,380 That’s why we need a Savior. 352 00:27:36,260 –> 00:27:38,459 It’s why you need a Savior. 353 00:27:39,219 –> 00:27:42,219 My friend, you need a Savior. 354 00:27:42,219 –> 00:27:45,339 You can’t change yourself. 355 00:27:45,339 –> 00:27:50,979 You need someone to save you, or you’ll be a person who goes on resisting and pushing 356 00:27:50,979 –> 00:27:55,959 God away not only for your life now, but for eternity. 357 00:27:56,939 –> 00:27:58,060 It’s hell. 358 00:27:59,060 –> 00:28:02,260 Bishop Ryle says. 359 00:28:02,260 –> 00:28:07,140 Most men hope to go to heaven when they die, but few, it may be feared, have taken the 360 00:28:07,140 –> 00:28:10,939 trouble to consider whether they would enjoy heaven if they got there. 361 00:28:10,939 –> 00:28:14,420 Heaven is, he says, essentially a holy place. 362 00:28:14,420 –> 00:28:17,979 It’s inhabitants are all holy and its occupations are all holy. 363 00:28:17,979 –> 00:28:23,579 What he asks, could an unsanctified man do in heaven if by chance he got there? 364 00:28:24,579 –> 00:28:28,760 John Owen the great theologian from an earlier century says with the most 365 00:28:28,760 –> 00:28:32,900 powerful entrenchment of language, he says, there’s no greater folly no greater 366 00:28:32,900 –> 00:28:40,400 deception out in the world than this. That an unholy person can enjoy heaven 367 00:28:40,400 –> 00:28:45,800 because the very joy of heaven is that the God is the blessing of heaven. 368 00:28:45,800 –> 00:28:52,040 And Owen makes this point, he says unholy persons cannot enjoy God nor would God 369 00:28:52,079 –> 00:28:58,099 be a reward to them. That’s actually a very revealing question. Would you think 370 00:28:58,099 –> 00:29:03,420 that God is a reward to you? Would you think that just to be in the presence of 371 00:29:03,420 –> 00:29:11,920 God would be the greatest joy to you? Or does that not sound like much to you? 372 00:29:11,920 –> 00:29:17,800 That’s telling a great deal about where you are, isn’t it? So here’s the tragedy 373 00:29:18,260 –> 00:29:27,579 folks that the sinner could not be happy in heaven and cannot be happy in hell. 374 00:29:27,579 –> 00:29:31,500 This is the tragedy of sin. It is a complete and utter dead end. It leaves 375 00:29:31,500 –> 00:29:36,260 the sinner with no place to go. Of course the sinner would want to be out of hell 376 00:29:36,260 –> 00:29:42,300 but not to be in heaven because that’s where God is who he hates and has 377 00:29:42,479 –> 00:29:46,380 Zhao has lived all his life. And the Bible says, 378 00:29:46,380 –> 00:29:52,680 As the tree falls soso shall it lie Lincoln draws attention 379 00:29:52,680 –> 00:29:56,760 to the words of Jesus about gnashing of teeth. isn’t that an awful expression? 380 00:29:56,760 –> 00:30:04,000 Gnashing of teeth. And what is gnashing of teeth lies? 381 00:30:04,000 –> 00:30:07,900 There’s a resentment that’s going on and here’s what he says. In hell people are 382 00:30:08,140 –> 00:30:14,959 so sick of having to gnash their teeth at God. There’s no repentance 383 00:30:14,959 –> 00:30:20,819 there. There is no one saying I wish I were with you God. 384 00:30:20,819 –> 00:30:25,680 There is no one in hell who wants to be in heaven. That’s the dead end. 385 00:30:25,680 –> 00:30:30,160 You see. I cannot be happy in hell and I could not be happy in heaven. 386 00:30:30,160 –> 00:30:35,660 What an awful place to be. So, Doctor Jim Packer says, 387 00:30:35,660 –> 00:30:39,160 Let us be clear and honestly about the doctrine of eternal punishment. 388 00:30:39,160 –> 00:30:42,660 It is in essence the case of God, respecting our choice and 389 00:30:42,660 –> 00:30:47,479 continuing to us throughout eternity. The spiritual condition 390 00:30:47,479 –> 00:30:54,260 which we chose to be in while on earth. Are you resisting God today? 391 00:30:54,260 –> 00:30:58,839 Your prayer today should not deliver me from hell, 392 00:30:58,839 –> 00:31:04,000 your prayer should be, Oh God, cleanse me, 393 00:31:04,000 –> 00:31:09,000 change my heart. Save me from this will 394 00:31:09,000 –> 00:31:14,540 that always resists you, always resists you. 395 00:31:14,540 –> 00:31:18,900 I can’t change myself. I need a savior! 396 00:31:18,900 –> 00:31:21,800 Oh God, make me a new creation in Jesus Christ. 397 00:31:21,800 –> 00:31:27,260 You need a savior. God will be the heaven of some 398 00:31:27,260 –> 00:31:31,040 and the hell of others. 399 00:31:32,040 –> 00:31:36,579 Last question, and you must have asked this question. 400 00:31:36,579 –> 00:31:40,739 If you are a Christian, how can a person be happy in heaven 401 00:31:40,739 –> 00:31:43,560 if they have loved ones who are in hell? 402 00:31:43,560 –> 00:31:46,560 That’s surely one of the hardest questions that can be asked. 403 00:31:46,560 –> 00:31:51,099 I cannot give you a complete answer to that question, 404 00:31:51,099 –> 00:31:53,760 but let me just point to three things 405 00:31:53,760 –> 00:31:55,540 that I personally have found helpful. 406 00:31:55,540 –> 00:32:00,239 They may just be useful to you in perhaps moving you forward 407 00:32:00,380 –> 00:32:01,900 in a way that will be helpful 408 00:32:01,900 –> 00:32:04,680 in your own walk with the Lord. 409 00:32:04,680 –> 00:32:07,839 The first thing is the clear promise of Scripture, 410 00:32:07,839 –> 00:32:09,579 in twice in the book of Revelation, 411 00:32:09,579 –> 00:32:13,719 that God will wipe away all tears from your eyes. 412 00:32:13,719 –> 00:32:14,819 Let’s give weight to that. 413 00:32:14,819 –> 00:32:18,300 God will wipe away all tears 414 00:32:18,300 –> 00:32:21,619 from your eyes, Christian. 415 00:32:23,099 –> 00:32:24,959 People sometimes cry in my office. 416 00:32:24,959 –> 00:32:26,640 I hope it’s nothing to do with me. 417 00:32:28,300 –> 00:32:30,160 But if they do, I have a box of tissues 418 00:32:30,319 –> 00:32:31,900 and I hand them a tissue. 419 00:32:31,900 –> 00:32:33,760 I hand them a tissue. 420 00:32:33,760 –> 00:32:36,420 This is much more intimate. 421 00:32:36,420 –> 00:32:40,099 God himself will wipe tears from your eyes. 422 00:32:40,099 –> 00:32:42,760 Who do you know that you would feel comfortable 423 00:32:42,760 –> 00:32:44,160 being that close to? 424 00:32:44,160 –> 00:32:46,140 How close do you have to be to a person 425 00:32:46,140 –> 00:32:48,939 to wipe the tears out of their eyes? 426 00:32:48,939 –> 00:32:51,439 And you will b that close to God 427 00:32:51,439 –> 00:32:53,420 and you will not be afraid. 428 00:32:54,819 –> 00:32:58,680 And when He wipes tears out of your eyes, 429 00:32:59,239 –> 00:33:03,180 these tears will never, never, never, never return 430 00:33:04,040 –> 00:33:05,520 and that’s His promise 431 00:33:05,520 –> 00:33:07,359 and you have to give weight to that. 432 00:33:09,219 –> 00:33:10,800 Second thing I’ve found that’s helpful, 433 00:33:10,800 –> 00:33:13,680 I found in a little book by Robert Morris on, 434 00:33:13,680 –> 00:33:17,199 sorry, Morris Roberts on the subject of heaven 435 00:33:17,199 –> 00:33:20,640 and in facing this question 436 00:33:20,640 –> 00:33:23,560 he points to the garden of Gethsemane 437 00:33:23,560 –> 00:33:25,920 and the relevance of Gethsemane, of course, 438 00:33:25,920 –> 00:33:28,260 is that was a situation in which Jesus 439 00:33:28,780 –> 00:33:31,160 was faced with something that seemed so awful, 440 00:33:31,160 –> 00:33:34,079 so, so horrendous and it actually involved hell itself 441 00:33:34,079 –> 00:33:36,380 because he was going to go into all that hell meant 442 00:33:36,380 –> 00:33:38,800 on the cross and you remember in his humanity 443 00:33:38,800 –> 00:33:40,819 he recoiled from it. 444 00:33:40,819 –> 00:33:44,459 It would be possible let this cup pass from me. 445 00:33:44,459 –> 00:33:46,180 You felt something like you may feel 446 00:33:46,180 –> 00:33:47,699 as you think about this question 447 00:33:47,699 –> 00:33:51,380 in relation to someone you know or love. 448 00:33:53,079 –> 00:33:54,859 But, Morris Roberts points this out. 449 00:33:54,859 –> 00:33:56,660 He says that there in the garden 450 00:33:56,699 –> 00:34:00,500 and in the agony of that that none of us can fully imagine, 451 00:34:00,500 –> 00:34:03,920 our Lord Jesus was able to say nevertheless 452 00:34:03,920 –> 00:34:07,660 not my will but yours be done. 453 00:34:07,660 –> 00:34:10,500 And then he just adds this sentence in heaven 454 00:34:10,500 –> 00:34:12,699 the redeemed will be like Christ. 455 00:34:13,600 –> 00:34:15,979 In heaven the redeemed will be like Christ. 456 00:34:16,840 –> 00:34:18,580 Here’s your savior and just try and think 457 00:34:18,580 –> 00:34:19,820 of what this was for him. 458 00:34:19,820 –> 00:34:22,439 Here’s something he completely recoils from 459 00:34:22,500 –> 00:34:25,419 and yet he was able say here on the earth 460 00:34:26,520 –> 00:34:28,679 nevertheless not my will but yours be done. 461 00:34:28,679 –> 00:34:33,199 You may not be there now but in the presence of Jesus 462 00:34:33,199 –> 00:34:36,899 you will be like Him, you will be like Him. 463 00:34:38,439 –> 00:34:40,060 And that takes me to the last thing 464 00:34:40,060 –> 00:34:42,800 and I found it in the teaching of Doctor R.C. Sproul 465 00:34:42,800 –> 00:34:44,679 and I think it’s very helpful. 466 00:34:44,679 –> 00:34:46,419 He points out that the real problem 467 00:34:46,419 –> 00:34:48,919 that we’re dealing with here is that we don’t 468 00:34:48,919 –> 00:34:51,100 fully know yet what sin is 469 00:34:51,260 –> 00:34:54,500 and we don’t fully know yet what God’s holiness is 470 00:34:54,500 –> 00:34:56,340 and we don’t even fully know yet 471 00:34:56,340 –> 00:34:59,580 what we ourselves will be, what glorification is. 472 00:34:59,580 –> 00:35:01,699 We are now the children of God, John says, 473 00:35:01,699 –> 00:35:05,419 but what we will be has not yet been revealed. 474 00:35:05,419 –> 00:35:07,179 When we see him we’ll be like him 475 00:35:07,179 –> 00:35:10,260 but we don’t yet all that, that involves. 476 00:35:10,260 –> 00:35:11,679 And so we are peering through 477 00:35:11,679 –> 00:35:13,479 a glass darkly as it says 478 00:35:13,479 –> 00:35:16,020 in 1 Corinthians in chapter 13. 479 00:35:17,820 –> 00:35:20,659 Sproul used an illustration in the light of this. 480 00:35:21,600 –> 00:35:24,500 When he was teaching a seminary class 481 00:35:24,500 –> 00:35:27,939 he would ask that a student would come forward 482 00:35:27,939 –> 00:35:30,500 and stand in front of the class 483 00:35:30,500 –> 00:35:32,780 to represent the Lord Jesus Christ 484 00:35:32,780 –> 00:35:34,939 and he would stand at one side of the room. 485 00:35:35,820 –> 00:35:37,979 Then Sproul would ask for a second student 486 00:35:37,979 –> 00:35:42,219 to come forward and to represent Adolf Hitler 487 00:35:42,219 –> 00:35:46,659 and the second student stood at the other side of the room. 488 00:35:47,540 –> 00:35:50,179 Then Sproul would say, now I want a third student 489 00:35:50,179 –> 00:35:54,239 to come forward and to represent the Apostle Paul 490 00:35:54,239 –> 00:35:57,219 and he would say that apart from Jesus, 491 00:35:57,219 –> 00:35:59,899 Paul was probably the holiest man ever 492 00:35:59,899 –> 00:36:02,239 to have walked the Earth. 493 00:36:02,239 –> 00:36:03,760 So as the student comes forward 494 00:36:03,760 –> 00:36:05,280 to represent the Apostle Paul, 495 00:36:05,280 –> 00:36:07,739 the question is, where on this continuum 496 00:36:07,739 –> 00:36:11,580 should that student representing the Apostle Paul stand? 497 00:36:11,580 –> 00:36:15,580 Answer, very close to Hitler. 498 00:36:17,260 –> 00:36:19,459 Can you do a double-take on that? 499 00:36:19,620 –> 00:36:22,620 Very close to Hitler. 500 00:36:24,379 –> 00:36:26,100 See, our first thought is that, 501 00:36:26,100 –> 00:36:28,379 see as we see it in this world, 502 00:36:28,379 –> 00:36:29,939 we say, from our perspective, 503 00:36:29,939 –> 00:36:31,699 we say well there’s such a huge difference 504 00:36:31,699 –> 00:36:34,540 between Hitler and Paul 505 00:36:34,540 –> 00:36:37,919 that surely Paul must be very close to Jesus. 506 00:36:39,860 –> 00:36:42,979 But Sproul’s point was simply this. 507 00:36:42,979 –> 00:36:46,600 The difference between Hitler and Paul on the one hand 508 00:36:46,600 –> 00:36:51,600 and Jesus on the other is so great a chasm 509 00:36:52,179 –> 00:36:55,239 that the difference between Hitler and Paul 510 00:36:55,239 –> 00:36:57,439 is rendered negligible. 511 00:36:58,860 –> 00:37:03,080 Now says Sproul, when you are glorified, 512 00:37:03,080 –> 00:37:04,179 where will you be? 513 00:37:05,739 –> 00:37:08,719 Very close to Jesus. 514 00:37:10,139 –> 00:37:12,899 And what that means is that there will be a huge gulf 515 00:37:12,899 –> 00:37:17,699 between you and all of unredeemed humanity. 516 00:37:18,780 –> 00:37:21,679 Sproul draws this conclusion and I quote, 517 00:37:21,679 –> 00:37:25,179 because we are so Hitleresque, 518 00:37:25,179 –> 00:37:27,800 that’s a very striking description of sin, isn’t it? 519 00:37:27,800 –> 00:37:29,419 A two on that one. 520 00:37:29,419 –> 00:37:30,399 That’s what he says. 521 00:37:30,399 –> 00:37:33,340 Because we are so Hitleresque, 522 00:37:33,340 –> 00:37:35,620 we can relate to monstrous sinners 523 00:37:35,620 –> 00:37:38,739 more than we relate to Jesus Christ. 524 00:37:38,739 –> 00:37:41,919 That’s why we find the doctrine of hell repugnant, 525 00:37:43,300 –> 00:37:45,760 that’s why we feel sorry for Uzziah 526 00:37:45,760 –> 00:37:47,699 when he’s killed for touching the ark, 527 00:37:47,699 –> 00:37:50,340 that’s why we feel sorry for Eren’s sons 528 00:37:50,340 –> 00:37:52,879 who were struck down for playing at worship. 529 00:37:53,820 –> 00:37:56,820 But the day will come when our passion 530 00:37:56,820 –> 00:37:59,419 and our identification with the glory of God 531 00:37:59,419 –> 00:38:03,179 will be so great that our sympathies will be with God 532 00:38:03,179 –> 00:38:07,540 and not with our fellow creatures who belittle his glory. 533 00:38:07,540 –> 00:38:09,979 We are not there now, 534 00:38:10,500 –> 00:38:15,040 but in our glorification we shall be. 535 00:38:16,620 –> 00:38:20,340 So my very last word to you this morning is simply this, 536 00:38:20,340 –> 00:38:24,820 the Lord Jesus Christ endured hell on the cross 537 00:38:24,820 –> 00:38:29,179 so that you would never know what it is like. 538 00:38:29,179 –> 00:38:30,040 What is hell? 539 00:38:30,040 –> 00:38:33,580 It is punishment, it is destruction, it is exclusion. 540 00:38:33,580 –> 00:38:35,179 What happened at the cross? 541 00:38:35,179 –> 00:38:38,340 The punishment that brought us peace was upon him. 542 00:38:39,120 –> 00:38:41,899 He entered into the destruction of death, 543 00:38:41,899 –> 00:38:44,459 his soul separated from his body. 544 00:38:46,100 –> 00:38:48,100 And in the darkness he was shut out, 545 00:38:48,100 –> 00:38:51,719 excluded from the love of his own eternal father 546 00:38:51,719 –> 00:38:53,979 so that out of that darkness, he cries on the cross, 547 00:38:53,979 –> 00:38:57,020 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? 548 00:38:58,459 –> 00:39:01,419 Jesus endured everything that hell is on the cross 549 00:39:01,419 –> 00:39:03,419 so that you would never know what it is like. 550 00:39:03,419 –> 00:39:05,540 He took the punishment, friend, 551 00:39:05,540 –> 00:39:09,620 so that in him, there would be no condemnation for you. 552 00:39:09,620 –> 00:39:12,199 He endured the destruction of the second death 553 00:39:12,199 –> 00:39:15,540 so that in him, you could be raised to new life. 554 00:39:17,000 –> 00:39:20,340 He was cut off from the father there on the cross 555 00:39:20,340 –> 00:39:23,479 so that in him, you could be reconciled 556 00:39:23,479 –> 00:39:26,739 to the father forever and forever. 557 00:39:26,739 –> 00:39:30,620 And so surely for anyone who hears this message today 558 00:39:30,620 –> 00:39:34,360 and does not yet know, trust, follow Jesus Christ. 559 00:39:34,360 –> 00:39:38,159 Today you must say, surely I need this Jesus 560 00:39:38,159 –> 00:39:40,479 and he must be mine, I must come to him today. 561 00:39:41,560 –> 00:39:43,239 And for everyone who is in Christ, 562 00:39:43,239 –> 00:39:45,320 surely you will be saying with me, 563 00:39:45,320 –> 00:39:50,320 thanks be to God for his indescribable gift. 564 00:39:52,419 –> 00:39:53,439 Let’s pray together. 565 00:39:56,139 –> 00:39:58,860 We bow before you, our father. 566 00:39:58,860 –> 00:40:00,520 And before what you have told us 567 00:40:00,520 –> 00:40:04,179 through your son about eternity. 568 00:40:05,520 –> 00:40:09,360 Let us now come to worship. 569 00:40:11,360 –> 00:40:13,840 Let us now pursue holiness. 570 00:40:15,600 –> 00:40:18,399 Let us now walk with Christ 571 00:40:18,399 –> 00:40:20,639 all the days of our lives. 572 00:40:21,939 –> 00:40:25,840 Through Jesus Christ, our Lord in whose name we pray 573 00:40:25,840 –> 00:40:27,919 and everyone said, amen.

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Colin Smith is the Senior Pastor of The Orchard Evangelical Free Church in the northwest suburbs of Chicago. He has authored a number of books, including Heaven, How I Got Here and Heaven, So Near – So Far. Colin is the Founder and Teaching Pastor for Open the Bible. Follow him on X formerly Twitter.

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