Hell, Part 2

Mark 9:42-48

Why does hell have to be forever?

This episode dives into theological reflections on hell’s duration, and Pastor Colin challenges us to consider the nature of sin and the need for a saviour. He also addresses the difficult question of experiencing joy in heaven while knowing loved ones may be in hell.

If today’s discussion raises new questions or fuels existing ones, we encourage you to explore further by reading Mark Chapter 9, verses 42 to 48.

100:00:00,200 –> 00:00:02,060Why does200:00:04,540 –> 00:00:06,880hell have to be forever?300:00:06,880 –> 00:00:08,240You must’ve thought about this.400:00:08,240 –> 00:00:14,180Is it not reasonable that the punishment the destruction and the exclusion,500:00:14,180 –> 00:00:17,240is it not reasonable that they should last for a time but then at600:00:17,240 –> 00:00:21,280some point, surely, it would come to an end.700:00:21,379 –> 00:00:24,240Why does hell have to be forever?800:00:24,240 –> 00:00:26,740Welcome to Open The Bible with Pastor Colin Smith.900:00:26,740 –> 00:00:29,740I am David Pick and glad you could join us today as we continue1000:00:29,780 –> 00:00:32,720the message we began last time on the subject of hell.1100:00:32,720 –> 00:00:37,180Colin, it is a sobering topic and one that has probably raised many questions1200:00:37,180 –> 00:00:39,580from many of us over the years.1300:00:39,580 –> 00:00:41,240Including that one we heard just now.1400:00:41,240 –> 00:00:43,840Why does hell have to be forever?1500:00:43,840 –> 00:00:47,619Ultimately we need to look at what the Bible says about hell.1600:00:47,680 –> 00:00:48,900Yeah, that’s right.1700:00:48,900 –> 00:00:52,080And there are a lot of people who are writing and teaching that1800:00:52,080 –> 00:00:54,700somehow it will be for a time and then it will come to an end1900:00:54,700 –> 00:00:57,000and there’s an obvious attraction within that.2000:00:57,419 –> 00:01:00,439There’s always an attempt to soften2100:01:00,439 –> 00:01:04,019what the Bible and our Lord Jesus particularly says.2200:01:04,019 –> 00:01:07,559And one way in which that happens is well it won’t be forever.2300:01:07,559 –> 00:01:10,660Another way is well you know there won’t actually be anybody in hell2400:01:10,660 –> 00:01:13,300because ultimately everyone will end up in heaven.2500:01:13,300 –> 00:01:16,400And yet what we have to do is to take very seriously2600:01:16,760 –> 00:01:19,480what the Lord Jesus Christ himself says2700:01:19,480 –> 00:01:24,599and then embrace the Lord Jesus Christ and his grace2800:01:25,139 –> 00:01:30,099In all of its fullness and it’s only I think really when we see the the horrors2900:01:30,099 –> 00:01:34,139of what he has saved us from that we begin to appreciate more fully3000:01:34,139 –> 00:01:36,980the wonder of what he’s done for us in the cross.3100:01:36,980 –> 00:01:40,540That’s what we’re going to do so I hope you’ll join us today if you can3200:01:40,540 –> 00:01:46,099in Mark Chapter 9 verses 42 to 48 as we continue the message hell.3300:01:46,239 –> 00:01:47,400Here is Colin.3400:01:47,400 –> 00:01:53,599Now friends as terrible as the doctrine of hell is3500:01:54,599 –> 00:02:00,320we should be very, very thankful that hell will always be outside of heaven.3600:02:00,320 –> 00:02:08,759You think what one sin in Adam, through the blood stream of the human race has3700:02:08,759 –> 00:02:14,199done by way of bringing absolute devastation to our world, do you think of all the evil3800:02:14,199 –> 00:02:22,399and all the slaughter and all the violence and all the pain that has plagued the history3900:02:22,820 –> 00:02:29,820this world. God had his gracious reason for allowing one sin to come into the world and4000:02:30,679 –> 00:02:35,619for his ordering of the history of the world it is through this that he has revealed his4100:02:35,619 –> 00:02:42,619glory, his mercy in the redeemer Jesus Christ. The glory of the Lamb will be forever and4200:02:43,199 –> 00:02:50,199forever and forever. But you can be sure, and at this point you should be glad that4300:02:50,339 –> 00:02:56,479hell will always be outside of heaven. That not one sin or even the possibility of sin4400:02:56,479 –> 00:03:03,479will ever enter in there. William still says this. Hell, he says, will be a completely4500:03:05,080 –> 00:03:12,080isolated and insulated realm for the absolute containment of all evil when it is eventually,4600:03:13,020 –> 00:03:20,020finally, banished from God’s kingdom. It will be outside heaven forever because in4700:03:24,139 –> 00:03:31,139the new heaven and in the new earth sin will be no more. That’s the promise of God.4800:03:35,119 –> 00:03:40,699Now, three strands to the teaching of Jesus on the subject of hell. You’re not going4900:03:41,199 –> 00:03:46,600to find anything clearer anywhere in the Bible and I wanted you to hear it from the lips5000:03:46,600 –> 00:03:52,779of Jesus, your Lord and I hope your savior. There is one verse in the new testament in5100:03:52,779 –> 00:03:59,779which the Apostle Paul brings all three strands of the teaching of Jesus together in one place5200:03:59,800 –> 00:04:04,839and it’s worth noting for that reason and that is 2 Thessalonians in chapter 1 and verse5300:04:04,839 –> 00:04:09,6399, where the Apostle, drawing together everything that the Lord Jesus said under the inspiration5400:04:09,639 –> 00:04:16,279of the Spirit said, they will suffer the punishment, there’s the first, of eternal5500:04:17,359 –> 00:04:24,359destruction, there’s the second, away from the presence of the Lord, there’s the third,5600:04:24,799 –> 00:04:31,540and from the glory of His might. That’s the Bible’s teaching and especially the teaching5700:04:31,700 –> 00:04:34,660of Jesus about hell.5800:04:34,660 –> 00:04:41,660Now folks, in the time that remains I want us to consider two questions that you must5900:04:41,880 –> 00:04:46,679have thought about that I’ve thought about many times and it’s important for us to engage6000:04:46,679 –> 00:04:53,420with them. The first is, why does hell have to be forever? Now you must have thought about6100:04:53,420 –> 00:05:00,019this. Is it not reasonable that the punishment, the destruction, and the exclusion, is it6200:05:00,019 –> 00:05:05,260not reasonable that this should last for a time but then at some point, surely, it would6300:05:05,260 –> 00:05:12,260come to an end? Why does hell have to be forever? And there are many things that could be said6400:05:13,339 –> 00:05:17,420but let me say this one thing for you to consider.6500:05:17,420 –> 00:05:24,420Hell goes on forever because sinners never stop sinning. Hell goes on forever because6600:05:25,359 –> 00:05:32,359sinners never stop sinning. You find this in the book of Revelation, that as the judgment6700:05:34,739 –> 00:05:41,739comes, sinners hate God even more than they did before. Revelation 16 and verse 10, people6800:05:43,579 –> 00:05:48,700nod their tongues in anguish and they curse the God of heaven for their pains and for6900:05:49,660 –> 00:05:56,660their sores, and they did not repent of their deeds. The sinner cannot change his heart.7000:05:59,440 –> 00:06:06,440The sinner cannot bring himself to love God. Nobody will be repenting in hell. The heart7100:06:09,640 –> 00:06:16,640of the sinner does not grow softer in hell, or kinder. If you think that the end of sin7200:06:16,700 –> 00:06:23,700for the sinner is the end of this life, you really have not thought very deeply about7300:06:23,700 –> 00:06:30,700the subject of sin itself. In hell the sinner is directly in the company of the devil and7400:06:30,880 –> 00:06:37,880his angels, Jesus says. And that, in that company, sin will sink more deeply into the7500:06:39,019 –> 00:06:46,019sinner and the sinner will sink more deeply into sin. And any remnants of sin the devil7600:06:46,640 –> 00:06:53,320feels, any remnant of compassion or care for other people that were there going in will7700:06:53,320 –> 00:07:00,299get less and less and less as sin does its ongoing work of making a person more and more7800:07:00,299 –> 00:07:07,299and more absorbed with themselves. Hell goes on forever because sinners never stop hating.7900:07:09,100 –> 00:07:16,100They hate God more and more and more and never, never, never less. That’s why sin is such8000:07:17,119 –> 00:07:24,019a deadly disease. That’s why we need a Savior. That’s why you need a Savior, my friend, you8100:07:24,019 –> 00:07:31,019need a Savior. You can’t change yourself. You need someone to save you.8200:07:32,700 –> 00:07:37,079Or you’ll be a person who goes on resisting and pushing God away, not only for your life8300:07:37,079 –> 00:07:43,779now but for eternity. It’s hell.8400:07:43,779 –> 00:07:45,579Bishop Ryles says,8500:07:45,579 –> 00:07:51,019Most men hope to go to Heaven when they die but few it may be feared have taken the trouble8600:07:51,019 –> 00:07:55,959to consider whether they would enjoy Heaven if they got there. Heaven is, he says,8700:07:55,959 –> 00:08:00,779essentially a holy place, its inhabitants are all holy, and its occupations are all8800:08:00,779 –> 00:08:07,779holy, what, he asks, could an unsanctified man do in heaven if by chance he got there?8900:08:08,679 –> 00:08:11,700John Owen, the great theologian from an earlier century says,9000:08:11,920 –> 00:08:16,119with the most powerful entrenchment of language, he says there’s no greater folly,9100:08:16,119 –> 00:08:24,119no greater deception out in the world than this, that an unholy person can enjoy Heaven9200:08:24,600 –> 00:08:30,760because the very joy of Heaven is that God is the blessing of Heaven. And Owen makes9300:08:30,760 –> 00:08:38,200this point, he says unholy persons cannot enjoy God, nor would God be a reward to them!9400:08:38,640 –> 00:08:44,859That’s actually a very revealing question. Would you think that God is a reward to you?9500:08:45,039 –> 00:08:52,039Would you think that just to be in the presence of God would be the greatest joy to you?9600:08:52,039 –> 00:08:57,580Or does that not sound like much to you? Well that’s telling a great deal about where9700:08:57,580 –> 00:09:02,559you are, isn’t it? So here’s the tragedy folks,9800:09:02,719 –> 00:09:09,719the sinner could not be happy in heaven and cannot be happy in hell.9900:09:10,739 –> 00:09:15,159This is the tragedy of sin, it is a complete and utter dead end. It leaves the sinner with10000:09:15,159 –> 00:09:21,219no place to go. Of course the sinner would want to be out of hell, but not to be in heaven10100:09:21,219 –> 00:09:27,820because that’s where God is who he hates. And has resisted all his life.10200:09:28,419 –> 00:09:31,260And the Bible says, as the tree falls so shall it lie.10300:09:33,919 –> 00:09:38,900Lincoln Duncan draws attention to the words of Jesus about gnashing of teeth. Isn’t10400:09:38,900 –> 00:09:44,940that an awful expression? Gnashing of teeth. Now what is gnashing of teeth, it’s uuugh!10500:09:46,380 –> 00:09:51,280There’s a resentment that’s going on and here’s what he says, in hell people are gnashing10600:09:51,320 –> 00:09:59,299their teeth at God. There’s no repentance there. There is no one saying, I wish I were10700:09:59,299 –> 00:10:06,780with you God. There is no one in hell who wants to be in heaven. That’s the dead end10800:10:06,780 –> 00:10:13,219you see. I cannot be happy in hell and I could not be happy in heaven. What an awful place10900:10:13,219 –> 00:10:17,380to be! And so Dr. Jim Packer says, I think very11000:10:17,380 –> 00:10:22,039helpfully there is nothing arbitrary about the doctrine of eternal punishment. It is11100:10:22,039 –> 00:10:29,159in essence a case of God respecting our choice and continuing to us throughout eternity the11200:10:29,159 –> 00:10:39,080spiritual condition which we chose to be in while on earth. Are you resisting God today?11300:10:39,080 –> 00:10:46,679Your prayer today should not be deliver me from hell. Your prayer should be oh God, cleanse11400:10:46,679 –> 00:11:00,359me. Change my heart. Save me from this will that always resists you. Can’t change myself.11500:11:00,359 –> 00:11:08,799I need a savior. Oh God make me a new creation in Jesus Christ. You need a savior.11600:11:08,900 –> 00:11:13,059We’ve got to pause the message there just briefly, but we’ll be back in a moment.11700:11:13,059 –> 00:11:17,340You’re listening to Open The Bible with Pastor Colin Smith and a message called Hell. It’s11800:11:17,340 –> 00:11:21,700part of our short series Heaven and Hell. 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And you must have asked this question if you are a Christian.14700:14:00,419 –> 00:14:06,419How can a person be happy in heaven if they have loved ones who are in hell?14800:14:06,419 –> 00:14:09,419That’s surely one of the hardest questions that can be asked.14900:14:09,419 –> 00:14:14,419And I cannot give you a complete answer to that question.15000:14:14,419 –> 00:14:19,419But let me just point to three things that I personally have found helpful15100:14:19,419 –> 00:14:23,419and they may just be useful to you in perhaps moving you forward15200:14:23,419 –> 00:14:27,419in a way that will be helpful in your own walk with the Lord.15300:14:27,419 –> 00:14:30,419The first thing is the clear promise of scripture15400:14:30,419 –> 00:14:32,419twice in the book of Revelation,15500:14:32,419 –> 00:14:36,419that God will wipe away all tears from your eyes.15600:14:37,419 –> 00:14:38,419Let’s give weight to that.15700:14:38,419 –> 00:14:46,419God will wipe away all tears from your eyes Christian.15800:14:46,419 –> 00:14:48,419People sometimes cry in my office.15900:14:48,419 –> 00:14:51,419I hope it has nothing to do with me.16000:14:51,419 –> 00:14:55,419But if they do I have a box of tissues and I hand them a tissue.16100:14:55,419 –> 00:14:57,419I hand them a tissue.16200:14:57,419 –> 00:14:59,419This is much more intimate.16300:14:59,419 –> 00:15:03,419God Himself will wipe tears from your eyes.16400:15:03,419 –> 00:15:07,419Who do you know that you would feel comfortable being that close to.16500:15:07,419 –> 00:15:13,419How close do you have to be to a person to wipe the tears out of their eyes.16600:15:13,419 –> 00:15:17,419And you will be that close to God and you will not be afraid.16700:15:17,419 –> 00:15:27,419And when He wipes tears out of your eyes, these tears will never, never, never, never return.16800:15:27,419 –> 00:15:32,419That’s His promise and you have to give weight to that.16900:15:32,419 –> 00:15:40,419The second thing I’ve found that’s helpful, I found in a little book by Maurice Roberts on the subject of heaven.17000:15:40,419 –> 00:15:46,419And in facing this question, he points to the Garden of Gethsemane.17100:15:46,419 –> 00:15:55,419And the relevance of Gethsemane, of course, is that that was a situation in which Jesus was faced with something that seemed so awful, so horrendous17200:15:55,419 –> 00:16:00,419and it actually involved hell itself because he was going to go into all that hell meant on the cross.17300:16:00,419 –> 00:16:03,419And you remember that in His humanity, he recoiled from it.17400:16:03,419 –> 00:16:07,419If it be possible, let this cup pass from me.17500:16:07,419 –> 00:16:14,419He felt something like you may feel as you think about this question in relation to someone you know or love.17600:16:15,419 –> 00:16:18,419But Maurice Roberts points this out. He says that,17700:16:18,419 –> 00:16:23,419There in the garden, in the agony of that, that none of us can fully imagine,17800:16:23,419 –> 00:16:24,419our Lord Jesus was able to say,17900:16:32,419 –> 00:16:36,419In Heaven the redeemed will be like Christ.18000:16:36,419 –> 00:16:39,419In Heaven the redeemed will be like Christ.18100:16:40,419 –> 00:16:43,419Here’s your saviour, and just try and think of what this was for Him.18200:16:43,419 –> 00:16:45,419Here’s something He completely recoils from18300:16:45,419 –> 00:16:47,419and yet He was able to say18400:16:47,419 –> 00:16:49,419here on the earth,18500:16:51,419 –> 00:16:52,419Nevertheless, not my will but yours be done.18600:16:52,419 –> 00:16:55,419You may not be there now18700:16:55,419 –> 00:16:57,419but in the Presence of Jesus,18800:16:57,419 –> 00:16:59,419you will be like Him.18900:17:01,419 –> 00:17:03,419And that takes me to the last thing19000:17:03,419 –> 00:17:05,420and I found it in the teaching of Dr. R. C. Sproul19100:17:05,420 –> 00:17:07,420and I think it’s very helpful.19200:17:07,420 –> 00:17:09,420He points out that the real problem19300:17:09,420 –> 00:17:11,420that we are dealing with here19400:17:11,420 –> 00:17:14,420is that we don’t fully know yet what sin is19500:17:14,420 –> 00:17:17,420and we don’t fully know yet, what God’s holiness is19600:17:17,420 –> 00:17:19,420and we don’t even fully know yet19700:17:19,420 –> 00:17:22,420what we ourselves will be, what glorification is.19800:17:22,420 –> 00:17:24,420We are now the children of God, John says19900:17:24,420 –> 00:17:26,420but what we will be20000:17:26,420 –> 00:17:28,420has not yet been revealed.20100:17:28,420 –> 00:17:30,420When we see Him, we’ll be like Him20200:17:30,420 –> 00:17:32,420but we don’t yet know all that that involves.20300:17:32,420 –> 00:17:35,420And so, we are peering through a glass Dakly20400:17:35,420 –> 00:17:37,420as it says in First Corinthians20500:17:37,420 –> 00:17:39,420in chapter 13.20600:17:39,420 –> 00:17:42,420Sproul used an illustration20700:17:42,420 –> 00:17:44,420in the light of this.20800:17:44,420 –> 00:17:47,420When he was teaching a seminary class20900:17:47,420 –> 00:17:49,420he would ask that21000:17:49,420 –> 00:17:51,420a student would come forward21100:17:51,420 –> 00:17:53,420and stand in front of the class21200:17:53,420 –> 00:17:55,420to represent the Lord Jesus Christ21300:17:55,420 –> 00:17:57,420and he would stand at one side of the room.21400:17:57,420 –> 00:17:59,420Then Sproul would ask21500:17:59,420 –> 00:18:02,420for a second student to come forward21600:18:02,420 –> 00:18:04,420and to represent Adolf Hitler.21700:18:04,420 –> 00:18:07,420And the second student21800:18:07,420 –> 00:18:10,420stood at the other side of the room.21900:18:10,420 –> 00:18:12,420Then Sproul would say22000:18:12,420 –> 00:18:14,420now I want a third student to come forward22100:18:14,420 –> 00:18:16,420and to represent the apostle Paul.22200:18:16,420 –> 00:18:18,420And he would say that22300:18:18,420 –> 00:18:20,420apart from Jesus22400:18:20,420 –> 00:18:22,420Paul was probably the holiest man22500:18:22,420 –> 00:18:24,420ever to have walked the earth.22600:18:24,420 –> 00:18:26,420So, as the student comes forward22700:18:26,420 –> 00:18:28,420to represent the apostle Paul22800:18:28,420 –> 00:18:30,420the question is, where on this continuum22900:18:30,420 –> 00:18:32,420should that student23000:18:32,420 –> 00:18:34,420representing the apostle Paul stand?23100:18:34,420 –> 00:18:36,420Answer?23200:18:36,420 –> 00:18:38,420Very close to Hitler.23300:18:40,420 –> 00:18:42,420Can you do a double take on that?23400:18:42,420 –> 00:18:44,420Very close23500:18:44,420 –> 00:18:46,420to Hitler.23600:18:46,420 –> 00:18:48,420See our first23700:18:48,420 –> 00:18:50,420thought is that see as we see it23800:18:50,420 –> 00:18:52,420in this world, we say23900:18:52,420 –> 00:18:54,420from our perspective, we say well there’s such a huge24000:18:54,420 –> 00:18:56,420difference between24100:18:56,420 –> 00:18:58,420Hitler and Paul that surely24200:18:58,420 –> 00:19:00,420Paul must be very close to24300:19:00,420 –> 00:19:02,420Jesus!24400:19:02,420 –> 00:19:04,420But Sproul’s point was simply24500:19:04,420 –> 00:19:06,420this, the24600:19:06,420 –> 00:19:08,420difference between Hitler and Paul on the one24700:19:08,420 –> 00:19:10,420hand, and Jesus24800:19:10,420 –> 00:19:12,420on the other,24900:19:12,420 –> 00:19:14,420is so great a chasm25000:19:14,420 –> 00:19:16,420that the difference between25100:19:16,420 –> 00:19:18,420Hitler and Paul25200:19:18,420 –> 00:19:20,420is rendered negligible.25300:19:20,420 –> 00:19:22,420Now, says25400:19:22,420 –> 00:19:24,420Sproul, when25500:19:24,420 –> 00:19:26,420you are glorified,25600:19:26,420 –> 00:19:28,420where will you be?25700:19:28,420 –> 00:19:30,420Very close25800:19:30,420 –> 00:19:32,420to Jesus.25900:19:32,420 –> 00:19:34,420And what that means26000:19:34,420 –> 00:19:36,420is that there will be a huge gulf26100:19:36,420 –> 00:19:38,420between you and26200:19:38,420 –> 00:19:40,420all of unredeemed26300:19:40,420 –> 00:19:42,420humanity.26400:19:42,420 –> 00:19:44,420Sproul draws this conclusion and I quote,26500:19:44,420 –> 00:19:46,420Because we are26600:19:46,420 –> 00:19:48,420so Hitleresque,26700:19:48,420 –> 00:19:50,420that’s a very striking description26800:19:50,420 –> 00:19:52,420of sin isn’t it? I have to chew on that one!26900:19:52,420 –> 00:19:54,420That’s what he says. Because we are27000:19:54,420 –> 00:19:56,420so Hitleresque,27100:19:56,420 –> 00:19:58,420we can relate to monstrous27200:19:58,420 –> 00:20:00,420sinners more than we relate to Jesus27300:20:00,420 –> 00:20:02,420Christ. That’s27400:20:02,420 –> 00:20:04,420why we find the doctrine of hell27500:20:04,420 –> 00:20:06,420repugnant.27600:20:06,420 –> 00:20:08,420That’s why we feel sorry for27700:20:08,420 –> 00:20:10,420Azzah when he’s killed for touching27800:20:10,420 –> 00:20:12,420the Ark, that’s why we feel sorry for27900:20:12,420 –> 00:20:14,420Aaron’s sons who were struck28000:20:14,420 –> 00:20:16,420down for playing at worship.28100:20:16,420 –> 00:20:18,420But the day will come28200:20:18,420 –> 00:20:20,420when our passion and28300:20:20,420 –> 00:20:22,420identification with the glory of God28400:20:22,420 –> 00:20:24,420will be so great that our28500:20:24,420 –> 00:20:26,420sympathies will be with God28600:20:26,420 –> 00:20:28,420and not with our fellow creatures28700:20:28,420 –> 00:20:30,420who belittle his glory.28800:20:30,420 –> 00:20:32,420We are not there28900:20:32,420 –> 00:20:34,420now.29000:20:34,420 –> 00:20:36,420But in our glorification29100:20:36,420 –> 00:20:38,420we shall be.29200:20:38,420 –> 00:20:40,420And so, my very29300:20:40,420 –> 00:20:42,420last word to you this morning is simply29400:20:42,420 –> 00:20:44,420this, the Lord Jesus29500:20:44,420 –> 00:20:46,420Christ endured29600:20:46,420 –> 00:20:48,420hell on the cross so29700:20:48,420 –> 00:20:50,420that you would never29800:20:50,420 –> 00:20:52,420know what it is like.29900:20:52,420 –> 00:20:54,420What is hell? It is punishment.30000:20:54,420 –> 00:20:56,420It is destruction. It is exclusion.30100:20:56,420 –> 00:20:58,420What happened at the cross?30200:20:58,420 –> 00:21:00,420The punishment that brought us30300:21:00,420 –> 00:21:02,420peace was upon him.30400:21:02,420 –> 00:21:04,420He entered into the destruction30500:21:04,420 –> 00:21:06,420of death, his soul separated30600:21:06,420 –> 00:21:08,420from his body.30700:21:08,420 –> 00:21:10,420And in the darkness30800:21:10,420 –> 00:21:12,420he was shut out, excluded30900:21:12,420 –> 00:21:14,420from the Love of his own Eternal31000:21:14,420 –> 00:21:16,420Father so that out of that darkness31100:21:16,420 –> 00:21:18,420he cries on the cross,31200:21:18,420 –> 00:21:20,420My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?31300:21:20,420 –> 00:21:22,420Jesus endured31400:21:22,420 –> 00:21:24,420everything that hell is on the31500:21:24,420 –> 00:21:26,420cross so that you would never know31600:21:26,420 –> 00:21:28,420what it is like. He took the31700:21:28,420 –> 00:21:30,420punishment friend so that in him31800:21:30,420 –> 00:21:32,420there would be no condemnation for you.31900:21:32,420 –> 00:21:34,420He endured the destruction32000:21:34,420 –> 00:21:36,420of the second death so that in him32100:21:36,420 –> 00:21:38,420you could be raised to new life.32200:21:38,420 –> 00:21:40,420He was32300:21:40,420 –> 00:21:42,420cut off from the Father32400:21:42,420 –> 00:21:44,420there on the cross so that32500:21:44,420 –> 00:21:46,420in him you could be reconciled32600:21:46,420 –> 00:21:48,420to the Father forever32700:21:48,420 –> 00:21:50,420and forever. And so32800:21:50,420 –> 00:21:52,420surely for anyone who32900:21:52,420 –> 00:21:54,420here’s this message today and does not33000:21:54,420 –> 00:21:56,420yet know, trust, follow33100:21:56,420 –> 00:21:58,420Jesus Christ today, you must33200:21:58,420 –> 00:22:00,420say surely I need33300:22:00,420 –> 00:22:02,420this Jesus and He must be mine. I must33400:22:02,420 –> 00:22:04,420come to Him today.33500:22:04,420 –> 00:22:06,420And for everyone who is in Christ33600:22:06,420 –> 00:22:08,420surely you will be saying with me33700:22:08,420 –> 00:22:10,420thanks be to God33800:22:10,420 –> 00:22:12,420for his33900:22:12,420 –> 00:22:14,420indescribable gift.34000:22:16,420 –> 00:22:18,420Well this is Pastor Colin34100:22:18,420 –> 00:22:20,420and I hope that right now34200:22:20,420 –> 00:22:22,420you are seeing with fresh34300:22:22,420 –> 00:22:24,420clarity and joy34400:22:24,420 –> 00:22:26,420just how much34500:22:26,420 –> 00:22:28,420Jesus Christ has done for you.34600:22:28,420 –> 00:22:30,420If you’re a Christian today I hope34700:22:30,420 –> 00:22:32,420you’re lifting your heart in thanksgiving34800:22:32,420 –> 00:22:34,420and saying Lord Jesus34900:22:34,420 –> 00:22:36,420you have done more for me than I can ever put35000:22:36,420 –> 00:22:38,420into words and more for me than35100:22:38,420 –> 00:22:40,420I will ever ever know35200:22:40,420 –> 00:22:42,420you will never know the full35300:22:42,420 –> 00:22:44,420extent of what Jesus35400:22:44,420 –> 00:22:46,420has done for you in the cross35500:22:46,420 –> 00:22:48,420and so let it be settled35600:22:48,420 –> 00:22:50,420in your mind today that you35700:22:50,420 –> 00:22:52,420are loved.35800:22:52,420 –> 00:22:54,420Unfathomably loved35900:22:54,420 –> 00:22:56,420by Jesus Christ and let that36000:22:56,420 –> 00:22:58,420be a strength to you whatever36100:22:58,420 –> 00:23:00,420you are facing. The worst36200:23:00,420 –> 00:23:02,420you will experience in all eternity36300:23:02,420 –> 00:23:04,420is the worst that you’ll experience36400:23:04,420 –> 00:23:06,420here in this life and36500:23:06,420 –> 00:23:08,420so look forward with hope36600:23:08,420 –> 00:23:10,420but if you have not yet become a Christian36700:23:10,420 –> 00:23:12,420I hope that today36800:23:12,420 –> 00:23:14,420you will be persuaded to come to36900:23:14,420 –> 00:23:16,420Jesus Christ. Put your trust in37000:23:16,420 –> 00:23:18,420him. Why would you walk away37100:23:18,420 –> 00:23:20,420from this saviour who has gone37200:23:20,420 –> 00:23:22,420to the extent of his37300:23:22,420 –> 00:23:24,420suffering in order to37400:23:24,420 –> 00:23:26,420redeem you from the37500:23:26,420 –> 00:23:28,420indescribable agonies of hell?37600:23:28,420 –> 00:23:30,420Put your trust in37700:23:30,420 –> 00:23:32,420the Lord Jesus Christ. Come to him37800:23:32,420 –> 00:23:34,420in repentence. End your fight37900:23:34,420 –> 00:23:36,420against God today.38000:23:36,420 –> 00:23:38,420I invite you to come because the38100:23:38,420 –> 00:23:40,420saviour invites you to come38200:23:40,420 –> 00:23:42,420and your opportunity to embrace38300:23:42,420 –> 00:23:44,420him is open38400:23:44,420 –> 00:23:46,420right now. Collyn thank38500:23:46,420 –> 00:23:48,420you for that and I hope that today’s38600:23:48,420 –> 00:23:50,420message has brought you a fresh revelation38700:23:50,420 –> 00:23:52,420of the goodness of God38800:23:52,420 –> 00:23:54,420and the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus38900:23:54,420 –> 00:23:56,239Christ in which39000:23:56,239 –> 00:23:58,239he offers a way out of the punishment that39100:23:58,239 –> 00:24:00,239we deserve. If you don’t39200:24:00,239 –> 00:24:02,239already know Jesus as your saviour39300:24:02,239 –> 00:24:04,239I hope you’ll take the time to39400:24:04,239 –> 00:24:06,239consider it today and39500:24:06,439 –> 00:24:08,439then talk to a trusted Christian friend39600:24:08,439 –> 00:24:10,439or family member ask them about39700:24:10,439 –> 00:24:12,540their experience of Christ39800:24:12,540 –> 00:24:14,540and if possible39900:24:14,540 –> 00:24:16,540make that step of commitment so40000:24:16,540 –> 00:24:18,540that your new life in Christ40100:24:18,540 –> 00:24:20,540can begin. You’ve been listening40200:24:20,540 –> 00:24:22,540to Open the Bible with Pastor Collyn40300:24:22,540 –> 00:24:24,439Smith and a message called40400:24:24,439 –> 00:24:26,439Hell part of our series, Heaven and Hell40500:24:26,439 –> 00:24:28,140and if you’ve missed any40600:24:28,140 –> 00:24:29,339of the series so far you can40700:24:29,339 –> 00:24:31,219easily catch up or go back40800:24:31,219 –> 00:24:33,219and listen again online at our website40900:24:33,219 –> 00:24:35,380Openthebible.org.uk41000:24:36,180 –> 00:24:38,180or find us as a pod cast41100:24:38,180 –> 00:24:40,180those are on all the main podcasts sites41200:24:40,180 –> 00:24:42,180simply search for41300:24:42,180 –> 00:24:44,180Open the Bible UK on the podcast41400:24:44,180 –> 00:24:46,180site or follow41500:24:46,180 –> 00:24:48,180the link from our website41600:24:48,180 –> 00:24:50,180also on our website of course41700:24:50,180 –> 00:24:52,180Open the Bible daily41800:24:52,180 –> 00:24:54,180our series of Daily Reflections41900:24:54,180 –> 00:24:56,180based on Pastor Collyn’s Teaching42000:24:56,180 –> 00:24:58,079and read in the UK by Sue MacLish42100:24:58,079 –> 00:25:00,079theres a new one of those everyday42200:25:00,079 –> 00:25:02,079online and as a podcast42300:25:02,079 –> 00:25:04,079so I hope you will check that out42400:25:04,660 –> 00:25:06,660For Open the Bible I’m Pastor Collyn Smith42500:25:06,660 –> 00:25:08,660I’m David Pink42600:25:08,660 –> 00:25:10,660and I hope you’ll join us again next time42700:25:10,660 –> 00:25:12,660for Open the Bible

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