Hell, Part 1

Mark 9:42-48
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Today, we tackle a subject that isn’t often discussed but is crucial nonetheless—hell. While it might be tempting to focus solely on messages of love, we explore why understanding the full spectrum of biblical teachings is vital. Jesus spoke frequently about hell, pointing to its reality and significance, and Pastor Colin is here to guide us through this challenging topic with wisdom and grace.

In this episode, Colin shares insights from Scottish hero Robert Murray McShane and dives into Jesus’ three teachings on hell as a place of punishment, destruction, and exclusion. You’ll hear stories and teachings that underscore the importance of discussing difficult truths with a compassionate heart. We encourage you to open your Bible to Mark chapter 9 and join Colin as he unpacks these profound teachings.

100:00:00,760 –> 00:00:02,760I200:00:03,140 –> 00:00:09,560Know that some people and that this is increasingly the case in our culture and the culture always seeps in somehow to the church300:00:09,560 –> 00:00:11,440So you here it around the church a lot as well400:00:11,440 –> 00:00:16,799There are people who will say the only thing that should ever be heard or spoken of in church is love500:00:17,600 –> 00:00:19,400My love is all we need600:00:19,400 –> 00:00:21,600That was the beatles not the Bible, by the way700:00:22,120 –> 00:00:28,280Welcome to open the Bible with Pastor Colin Smith. I’m David pick. I’m glad you could be with us today and Colin800:00:28,280 –> 00:00:29,600That’s a nice sentiment900:00:29,860 –> 00:00:31,520But that is not the whole truth1000:00:31,520 –> 00:00:32,380is it1100:00:32,380 –> 00:00:38,959Today we begin to think about the subject of hell and we find that this is something that Jesus spoke about. In fact quite often1200:00:39,279 –> 00:00:43,080Yes, he did and was uniquely able to do that and1300:00:43,840 –> 00:00:48,139For those of us who are called to preach. It is incredibly difficult to do that1400:00:48,720 –> 00:00:51,020But that’s not a reason for running away from it1500:00:51,200 –> 00:00:54,480You know in the culture Scottish culture from which I come1600:00:54,740 –> 00:00:58,619There’s a story about I believe Robert Murray McShane. One of my1700:00:59,000 –> 00:01:00,820great heroes and1800:01:00,820 –> 00:01:05,500A friend of his who was a pastor had preached on the subject of hell the previous Sunday1900:01:05,500 –> 00:01:08,900And when they were talking McShane said to him, did you preach it with tears?2000:01:10,160 –> 00:01:11,220and2100:01:11,220 –> 00:01:16,540he had a real sense that that is the only way that you could speak about such a thing with a broken heart and2200:01:16,879 –> 00:01:24,500I think one of the reasons that many people today are not interested or willing to hear anything about the subject is that perhaps2300:01:24,660 –> 00:01:31,300There have been some who have spoken off it with a harshness of spirit and a note of condemnation and2400:01:32,500 –> 00:01:36,820even a relish at what is coming to those who hate God and who2500:01:37,580 –> 00:01:41,580Indulge in sin you don’t find anything of that in Jesus2600:01:41,580 –> 00:01:44,400He comes to save us from this2700:01:44,400 –> 00:01:51,459but there is a reality from which people need to be saved and not to speak about it is not to love and not to2800:01:51,459 –> 00:01:52,339deal with the truth2900:01:52,419 –> 00:01:59,779and so as we try to unlock the bible we want to unlock it in its fullness and that includes what Jesus says to us in3000:01:59,980 –> 00:02:02,120regards to this most serious of subjects3100:02:02,360 –> 00:02:07,779So we’ll begin today to think about the three strands in the teaching of Jesus about hell3200:02:07,860 –> 00:02:13,899So I hope you’ll join us if you can in your Bible in Mark chapter 9. Here’s Colin3300:02:14,500 –> 00:02:16,259every person3400:02:16,259 –> 00:02:21,339Who has ever lived will personally experience either heaven or hell?3500:02:21,919 –> 00:02:24,020Nobody will experience both3600:02:25,740 –> 00:02:32,679all will experience one or the other you will experience heaven or you will experience hell and that is true for3700:02:33,339 –> 00:02:35,800every person you know and meet3800:02:37,740 –> 00:02:44,199All of us therefore need to hear about hell either as a warning with regards to where you are heading or3900:02:45,139 –> 00:02:47,139else as an4000:02:47,300 –> 00:02:49,839appreciation of what it is that you have been saved from4100:02:50,839 –> 00:02:52,839I4200:02:53,419 –> 00:03:00,160Believe in hell because I cannot escape the clarity with which our Lord Jesus Christ spoke about it as4300:03:00,740 –> 00:03:03,419a church we believe in hell if4400:03:04,220 –> 00:03:05,580you are a member of this church4500:03:05,580 –> 00:03:11,320You will have expressed your agreement at some point to the statement of faith that describes4600:03:11,419 –> 00:03:15,199the great doctrines of the Christian faith that we hold in common as a4700:03:15,839 –> 00:03:19,080congregation and to which we bear witness in the world and4800:03:19,580 –> 00:03:24,339In that statement of faith if you’re going into the membership class and coming in as a new member of the church4900:03:24,500 –> 00:03:26,539You’ll have an opportunity to review this5000:03:26,539 –> 00:03:31,559you’ll be asked if this is something that you too are able to uphold and to agree with and5100:03:31,580 –> 00:03:38,559To believe and we say this that we believe that God will raise the dead bodily and judge the world5200:03:39,619 –> 00:03:41,619assigning the unbeliever to5300:03:42,139 –> 00:03:43,740condemnation and5400:03:43,740 –> 00:03:44,880eternal5500:03:44,880 –> 00:03:46,160conscious5600:03:46,160 –> 00:03:47,300punishment and5700:03:47,759 –> 00:03:51,220The believer to eternal blessedness and joy with our Lord5800:03:51,220 –> 00:03:53,240That’s the statement of faith of our church5900:03:53,240 –> 00:04:00,059We bear witness to these truths because we find them in the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ6000:04:01,699 –> 00:04:03,039Now6100:04:03,039 –> 00:04:07,759We need sometimes to just stop and say that I really believe in heaven6200:04:08,979 –> 00:04:10,979So I really believe in hell6300:04:11,580 –> 00:04:12,660Now6400:04:12,660 –> 00:04:18,140We’re not thinking about these things all the time folks, but we are thinking about them today6500:04:18,140 –> 00:04:22,440and we need to be thinking about them sometimes because they are6600:04:22,700 –> 00:04:28,059Eternal in their scope and nothing carries greater weight therefore than this6700:04:29,019 –> 00:04:35,440Now I have set myself a discipline for today and I have asked the Lord for his help in this regard and that6800:04:36,100 –> 00:04:38,459Discipline is to be measured in6900:04:39,140 –> 00:04:42,260Everything that I say to you from the pulpit today7000:04:42,799 –> 00:04:48,179My aim is very simply to show you and to explain as best I can what our Lord7100:04:48,179 –> 00:04:54,220Jesus says in relation to hell. I want you to see his words and to hear what your Lord says7200:04:55,440 –> 00:04:59,320Second I want to attempt an answer to two of the most difficult questions7300:05:00,279 –> 00:05:05,299Questions that I have asked and that some of you have also asked of me at different times7400:05:05,500 –> 00:05:10,119One is why is it that Hell has to be forever? It’s a huge question7500:05:10,119 –> 00:05:14,739and another is how could a Christian possibly be happy in heaven if7600:05:15,359 –> 00:05:20,100He or she knows that they have a loved one who is in hell. That’s one of the biggest questions7700:05:20,100 –> 00:05:21,920I think any Christian7800:05:21,920 –> 00:05:22,880faces and7900:05:22,880 –> 00:05:29,519You will have asked that question as I have and then I want to point you to Jesus Christ as we try to do every8000:05:29,519 –> 00:05:31,079week here8100:05:31,119 –> 00:05:35,399to point you to Him as the one who endured hell on the cross so that8200:05:35,739 –> 00:05:40,100You should never know from experience what it is like8300:05:40,839 –> 00:05:42,720Now having said this8400:05:42,720 –> 00:05:49,799However, careful however measured the statement of this truth. There is no way in which we can avoid its horror8500:05:50,859 –> 00:05:57,820Dr.. Jim Packer says the New Testament teaching about hell is meant to appal us and8600:05:58,420 –> 00:06:00,880To strike us done with horror8700:06:02,220 –> 00:06:05,820Assuring us that as heaven will be better than anyone could dream8800:06:06,579 –> 00:06:11,179So hell will be worse than anyone could conceive8900:06:12,540 –> 00:06:14,920But we need to hear this truth I9000:06:15,959 –> 00:06:22,420Know that some people and this is increasingly the case in our culture and the culture always seeps in somehow to the church9100:06:22,420 –> 00:06:24,299So you hear it around the church a lot as well?9200:06:24,299 –> 00:06:27,519There are people who will say the only thing that should ever be heard9300:06:27,720 –> 00:06:29,720Or spoken of in Church is love9400:06:30,279 –> 00:06:32,140You know love is all we need9500:06:32,140 –> 00:06:34,440But I was the Beatles not the Bible by the way9600:06:35,739 –> 00:06:37,980But you know maybe you’ve said that maybe you’ve thought that9700:06:38,920 –> 00:06:40,640well9800:06:40,640 –> 00:06:42,640People who are greatly loved9900:06:43,600 –> 00:06:47,119Sometimes do terrible terrible things. You know that and10000:06:48,079 –> 00:06:53,739So the Bible gives to us a broader range of what we need to hear10100:06:54,140 –> 00:06:56,140That’s why Paul says on one occasion10200:06:56,679 –> 00:07:01,140Knowing the fear of the Lord. We seek to persuade others10300:07:01,420 –> 00:07:05,779so there’s a place for that in the life of a Christian believer and10400:07:06,299 –> 00:07:08,299I’m just going to take it as10500:07:08,600 –> 00:07:10,600foundational and obvious that10600:07:10,859 –> 00:07:17,559Every word that my lord Jesus spoke is a word that I need to hear10700:07:17,559 –> 00:07:20,299Would you agree with them there are no redundant words of Jesus?10800:07:20,760 –> 00:07:23,380There are no words of Jesus that are not for us10900:07:23,380 –> 00:07:30,799And so on this occasion, I draw your attention to these most difficult and yet most important words of Jesus11000:07:31,519 –> 00:07:37,000Now there are really three strands to the teaching of Jesus in relation to hell11100:07:37,000 –> 00:07:42,220Let me give them to you and then we’ll look at each hell is a place of punishment. That’s number one11200:07:42,619 –> 00:07:48,100Hell is a place of destruction. That’s number two and hell is a place of exclusion11300:07:48,619 –> 00:07:51,899That is number three. Let’s begin here11400:07:52,339 –> 00:07:54,880Hell is a place of punishment11500:07:55,440 –> 00:07:57,640Matthew chapter 25 in verse 4611600:07:58,480 –> 00:08:00,940We looked at the scripture already last week11700:08:01,220 –> 00:08:06,380Our Lord speaks of the day of judgment and then he says these will go away into11800:08:07,160 –> 00:08:08,519eternal11900:08:08,519 –> 00:08:10,079punishment12000:08:10,079 –> 00:08:12,079but the righteous into12100:08:12,480 –> 00:08:13,859eternal life12200:08:14,100 –> 00:08:20,679So i’m simply drawing your attention now to this fact that Jesus speaks about punishment12300:08:22,179 –> 00:08:28,839Now there will be some people today who will say well, I don’t believe in punishment. I only believe in correction12400:08:30,420 –> 00:08:31,540Well12500:08:31,540 –> 00:08:36,419If you say that I can only say to you that at this point. You have a disagreement with Jesus12600:08:37,380 –> 00:08:44,840Because Jesus speaks about punishment and not only about punishment he speaks about punishment that is eternal12700:08:45,539 –> 00:08:48,840that’s what my lord said12800:08:50,580 –> 00:08:52,580Now god is just12900:08:52,580 –> 00:08:54,020and that means13000:08:54,020 –> 00:08:57,380That he never punishes in an arbitrary kind of a way13100:08:58,099 –> 00:09:04,500And so the words of Jesus that were read to us in mark chapter 9 are very important. Look at verse 42 there13200:09:05,380 –> 00:09:11,299Jesus says if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin13300:09:12,260 –> 00:09:18,099it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck13400:09:19,539 –> 00:09:25,700And you say why would it be better for this person who has committed the sin to have been thrown into the sea earlier13500:09:26,260 –> 00:09:29,460With a great millstone around his neck. You see what Jesus is saying13600:09:30,179 –> 00:09:32,580He is saying terrible things are done in this world13700:09:33,539 –> 00:09:35,539and especially to children13800:09:36,500 –> 00:09:39,299and a large part of it is never brought to justice here13900:09:40,580 –> 00:09:46,580But Jesus is saying you need to know that God will bring it to justice. Nobody hurts a child and gets away with it14000:09:47,299 –> 00:09:49,299Now he says understand this14100:09:49,539 –> 00:09:51,380It would be better14200:09:51,380 –> 00:09:54,580For the person who sinned against the child14300:09:55,299 –> 00:09:58,020to have died before he or she did that14400:09:58,340 –> 00:09:59,700He says well14500:09:59,700 –> 00:10:02,099I understand it would have been better for the child14600:10:03,140 –> 00:10:06,020If the person who had perpetrated this thing had died first14700:10:06,020 –> 00:10:13,299But but how is it better for the person who perpetrated the act to have died first? Here’s what Jesus is saying14800:10:14,260 –> 00:10:16,159the punishment14900:10:16,159 –> 00:10:18,179experienced by a person in hell15000:10:18,900 –> 00:10:20,900will be a direct15100:10:21,039 –> 00:10:22,340reflection15200:10:22,340 –> 00:10:25,299of the particular sins that they have committed15300:10:25,359 –> 00:10:29,059Nobody will be punished for sins they did not commit15400:10:30,020 –> 00:10:34,880And if the person Jesus is speaking about had been drowned in the sea before15500:10:35,380 –> 00:10:43,219he or she had offended against this child, it would be better for him because that person would have one less sin to15600:10:43,299 –> 00:10:45,299deal with in hell15700:10:46,260 –> 00:10:48,840And a person in hell friends would give anything15800:10:49,940 –> 00:10:52,179to have one less sin to deal with15900:10:52,760 –> 00:10:54,260now16000:10:54,260 –> 00:10:56,859You see that makes us sit up and take notice16100:10:57,460 –> 00:11:01,140Jesus is talking about real punishment for real sins16200:11:02,260 –> 00:11:06,340That are named that are dated and that are remembered by god16300:11:08,099 –> 00:11:11,080And that’s why the bible says on the last day the books are opened16400:11:12,580 –> 00:11:16,419And people are judged according to what they have done16500:11:16,419 –> 00:11:23,200So hell is a place of punishment you have the word of jesus for that16600:11:24,659 –> 00:11:30,900Now the punishment and we’re still in mark and chapter 9 according to jesus comes in two ways16700:11:32,260 –> 00:11:37,820First in verse 48 jesus says their worm does not16800:11:38,820 –> 00:11:39,940die16900:11:39,940 –> 00:11:41,940Now notice it’s not the worm17000:11:42,419 –> 00:11:44,640It’s their worm17100:11:45,440 –> 00:11:51,840In other words jesus is talking about something that is unique and special to every17200:11:52,479 –> 00:11:56,659Individual in hell there worm that’s personal you see17300:11:57,640 –> 00:12:02,460now what does a worm do a worm eats away at the inside and17400:12:04,159 –> 00:12:09,739That which eats away at the inside of a person is conscience17500:12:10,460 –> 00:12:14,419It does not always do that in this world because so often it is suppressed17600:12:15,299 –> 00:12:20,719But what our Lord is teaching us here is that conscience will be fully activated in hell17700:12:21,380 –> 00:12:25,599but a person in hell will live with the full knowledge of what they have done and17800:12:25,880 –> 00:12:31,299Jesus says there worm personal because it’s the full knowledge of what they have done and17900:12:31,760 –> 00:12:33,739unique to each individual18000:12:33,739 –> 00:12:36,580their worm does not die18100:12:38,000 –> 00:12:40,000it never diminishes and18200:12:40,760 –> 00:12:42,760it never ends and18300:12:43,119 –> 00:12:47,960And then Jesus says the fire is not quenched18400:12:47,960 –> 00:12:53,419So while their worm is particular to each individual in hell because it’s a direct reflection18500:12:53,640 –> 00:12:57,119of their full knowledge of all that each individual there has done18600:12:58,119 –> 00:13:00,979the fire is general to all and18700:13:01,479 –> 00:13:05,520reminds us of course that the Bible often says our God is a18800:13:05,520 –> 00:13:12,719Consuming fire a person in hell lives under the judgment of God who is the consuming fire forever18900:13:13,919 –> 00:13:15,919in other words19000:13:16,140 –> 00:13:19,539just as the presence of God will be19100:13:20,380 –> 00:13:22,380Heaven to some19200:13:22,419 –> 00:13:24,700The presence of God will be hell19300:13:25,320 –> 00:13:26,799to others19400:13:26,799 –> 00:13:32,679If you have come to love the Lord with your heart and to be a worshiper of him19500:13:33,080 –> 00:13:34,880Then he will be19600:13:35,059 –> 00:13:36,840Heaven to you19700:13:36,840 –> 00:13:41,960And if you live your life resisting and pushing away the God who made you then19800:13:42,340 –> 00:13:46,020For all eternity that God will be held to you19900:13:46,719 –> 00:13:48,719the fire is not20000:13:49,080 –> 00:13:56,599Quenched so hell is a place of punishment and that is the first strand in the teaching of Jesus a20100:13:58,280 –> 00:14:00,580Sobering message there from Pastor Colin20200:14:01,140 –> 00:14:05,299Entitled hell and it’s part of our series listener Favorites20300:14:05,900 –> 00:14:08,2602025 in which we take the ten most20400:14:09,159 –> 00:14:13,479Requested and popular messages of the past twelve months and bundle them all together20500:14:13,599 –> 00:14:17,880If you’ve missed any of the series so far or if you want to go back and listen again20600:14:17,900 –> 00:14:22,440You can easily do that by coming online to our website open the Bible argued20700:14:22,979 –> 00:14:27,700UK there you’ll find all the messages which have already gone out on air and they’re also20800:14:27,940 –> 00:14:33,380Available as a podcast and those who are on all the main podcast sites search for open the Bible UK20900:14:33,700 –> 00:14:35,739or follow the link from our website21000:14:36,859 –> 00:14:41,140Back to the message now, we’re in Mark chapter 9 here’s Colin21100:14:41,780 –> 00:14:47,359Hell is a place of punishment and that is the first strand in the teaching of Jesus21200:14:48,679 –> 00:14:50,039Just as we will see21300:14:50,039 –> 00:14:56,400that heaven is spoken off in a number of ways in order to give us a full picture of the truth so we find today21400:14:56,400 –> 00:14:57,320that21500:14:57,340 –> 00:15:03,539There is more that Jesus says about hell. And so secondly hell is a place of destruction21600:15:03,820 –> 00:15:08,219It’s a place of destruction again. I’m quoting simply the words of Jesus21700:15:08,840 –> 00:15:10,840Matthew 10 2821800:15:11,159 –> 00:15:15,059Our Lord says do not fear. Those who kill the body21900:15:15,679 –> 00:15:19,179But cannot kill the soul rather22000:15:20,200 –> 00:15:25,039Fear Him Jesus said this fear him who can destroy22100:15:25,919 –> 00:15:29,679Both soul and body in hell22200:15:31,320 –> 00:15:36,539Now this leads to a very important question what is meant by the word22300:15:37,099 –> 00:15:44,200Destroy and you will know that some Christians have suggested that if the body and the soul are destroyed in Hell22400:15:44,700 –> 00:15:51,440Could this mean that the body and soul of a person ceases to exist in hell but in some way hell as it were burns22500:15:51,500 –> 00:15:53,500Itself out after a period of time22600:15:53,640 –> 00:15:58,320That the punishment will come to an end and that it will end at the point where the body and the soul are22700:15:58,880 –> 00:16:01,880destroyed you will have heard that suggested and22800:16:02,919 –> 00:16:06,960You need to know as someone who upholds the teaching of Jesus22900:16:06,960 –> 00:16:11,500How you can answer questions along these lines when they come to you?23000:16:11,760 –> 00:16:16,960The same question is raised from the most the best-known verse in all of the Bible23100:16:17,239 –> 00:16:21,219John 3 16 you can say it with me for God so loved the world23200:16:21,799 –> 00:16:27,719That he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in him should not23300:16:28,780 –> 00:16:32,580Perish now what what is the meaning of the word perish?23400:16:33,799 –> 00:16:39,299Some are asking this question does this mean that that in some way the soul or the body?23500:16:40,080 –> 00:16:44,700Goes out of existence is that what the word perish means?23600:16:45,179 –> 00:16:47,179So this is a very important question23700:16:47,219 –> 00:16:54,359Do the words destroy or perish mean that the body and soul at some point may cease to exist in in?23800:16:54,559 –> 00:16:59,880Hell and the answer I’m going to give to you to that question is no. It does not mean that23900:17:01,200 –> 00:17:02,580Doug mu24000:17:02,580 –> 00:17:07,699Great theologian who for many years taught just up the road here at Trinity as seminary24100:17:08,540 –> 00:17:10,540Doug mu points out that the word24200:17:11,180 –> 00:17:17,540Destruction in the Bible often refers to the situation of a person or an object24300:17:17,719 –> 00:17:21,020That has lost the essence of its nature and function24400:17:21,839 –> 00:17:23,839What do you means by that is simply?24500:17:24,199 –> 00:17:30,520Here’s something or someone that is no longer in a position to do what it or they were24600:17:31,140 –> 00:17:37,359Made to do and he gives a number of examples, and I think this will make his point clear to you24700:17:37,699 –> 00:17:41,819Do you remember when Jesus spoke about the wine and the wine skins?24800:17:41,819 –> 00:17:46,780And he said you don’t put new wine in old wine skins24900:17:47,479 –> 00:17:55,000Because if you do if you do put new wine in old wineskins the wine will be spilled and the skins will be25000:17:55,459 –> 00:17:56,699destroyed25100:17:56,699 –> 00:17:58,219destroyed25200:17:58,219 –> 00:18:03,560Now think about it. What’s he saying he does not mean that the old wineskin ceases to exist25300:18:04,400 –> 00:18:08,900He’s saying that the old wineskin because it burst and now has holes in it25400:18:09,739 –> 00:18:16,119It is no longer able to fulfill the function for which it was made, which is to hold wine. It’s useless25500:18:16,359 –> 00:18:19,040It cannot fulfill the function for which it was made25600:18:19,040 –> 00:18:20,079it’s destroyed25700:18:20,079 –> 00:18:26,680And that’s exactly the same word that Jesus is using in Matthew’s gospel when he says that fear him25800:18:27,079 –> 00:18:32,459Who can destroy the soul and the body in hell you say well, that’s one example. I got more coming25900:18:32,739 –> 00:18:37,760okay, do you remember the story about the woman who poured ointment over Jesus and26000:18:39,099 –> 00:18:42,040someone said why was the ointment wasted26100:18:43,380 –> 00:18:45,380The word wasted26200:18:45,619 –> 00:18:51,119Is exactly the same word as Jesus uses here for destroyed the destroying of the soul and the body26300:18:51,260 –> 00:18:56,540It means the same thing wasted in the sense that it cannot fulfill the very function for which it was made26400:18:57,780 –> 00:19:01,219At least that was the opinion of the person who said that and that’s what this word means26500:19:02,180 –> 00:19:07,439Destroyed no longer able to fulfill its function wasted. No no longer able to do what?26600:19:07,439 –> 00:19:10,579it was meant to do do you remember the story of the lost coin a26700:19:10,800 –> 00:19:15,260Woman, which 15, as she loses a coin and Jesus tells this story26800:19:15,260 –> 00:19:20,619She finds it and then she says to her friends and neighbors rejoice with me for I have found the coin26900:19:20,719 –> 00:19:23,119that I had lost and27000:19:23,339 –> 00:19:25,400The word that Jesus uses for lost27100:19:25,420 –> 00:19:30,420There is exactly the same as the word that he used for destroyed the soul in the body being destroyed27200:19:30,420 –> 00:19:32,780you see it’s what does move is saying they27300:19:33,339 –> 00:19:40,140Can’t fulfill its function what uses a coin that has value because you’re able to buy things with it, but when it’s lost27400:19:40,880 –> 00:19:42,079It’s no use to you27500:19:42,079 –> 00:19:44,859You can’t buy stuff in the shops with a lost coin and so this woman27600:19:45,319 –> 00:19:50,380Rejoices when she finds it because now it can be restored to its its usefulness before it was lost27700:19:51,900 –> 00:19:55,760Destroyed lost wasted27800:19:56,640 –> 00:19:58,619The same word27900:19:58,619 –> 00:20:03,260when Peter speaks in 2nd Peter chapter 3 and verse 6 about the flood and28000:20:04,579 –> 00:20:11,619he says this the world that then existed was deluged with water and28100:20:12,300 –> 00:20:15,800It perished so there’s your perish word here28200:20:16,420 –> 00:20:19,099Second Peter chapter 3 in verse 6 it perished28300:20:19,099 –> 00:20:24,160And that’s the same word that Jesus used for the soul in the body being destroyed in hell28400:20:24,699 –> 00:20:26,699Perished should not perish28500:20:27,339 –> 00:20:33,500But think about it Peter is not saying when at the time of the flood that the planet ceased to exist28600:20:34,619 –> 00:20:40,140What he’s saying is simply that the planet couldn’t fulfill its normal function of sustaining life until28700:20:41,619 –> 00:20:45,160The waters in the grace and the mercy of God subsided28800:20:46,339 –> 00:20:49,040So here’s the point wineskins with holes28900:20:49,699 –> 00:20:56,500Ointment that’s said to be wasted a coin that was said to be lost a world that perished in the flood29000:20:56,760 –> 00:21:02,099none of these things ceased to exist what all of them have in common was29100:21:02,219 –> 00:21:07,599That they were no longer in the position to fulfill the function for which they were made29200:21:09,660 –> 00:21:13,180So for a soul or for a body to be destroyed29300:21:13,540 –> 00:21:18,280Does not mean that a person will cease to exist29400:21:19,040 –> 00:21:25,939It means that the person cannot fulfill the function for which a human being was created29500:21:26,859 –> 00:21:29,459And that’s the tragic loss of hell29600:21:30,380 –> 00:21:37,579William still says the awful thing about hell is the annoying burning searing agony of its29700:21:37,839 –> 00:21:39,839Unfulfillment29800:21:40,780 –> 00:21:43,199Life in that living death29900:21:44,439 –> 00:21:50,400Will be one huge aching void30000:21:50,719 –> 00:21:55,319Because a man who lives for himself ultimately cannot satisfy himself30100:21:55,979 –> 00:21:57,180cannot30200:21:57,180 –> 00:22:02,560We have to pause our message therefore today, but we’ll hear the second part of this message tomorrow30300:22:02,900 –> 00:22:04,680So I hope you’ll join us for that30400:22:04,680 –> 00:22:10,719You’ve been listening to open the Bible with Pastor Colin Smith and a message called hell part of our series30500:22:11,280 –> 00:22:12,739Listener favorites30600:22:12,739 –> 00:22:17,7192025 and if you’ve missed any of the series so far or if you want to go back and listen again30700:22:17,859 –> 00:22:21,540You can do that by coming online to our website open the Bible.org30800:22:22,900 –> 00:22:29,219UK or find us as a podcast on all the main podcast sites search for open the Bible UK 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Colin32600:23:54,199 –> 00:23:58,040Why did you use the flying metaphor to describe this book?32700:23:58,040 –> 00:24:02,920Well, suppose you were making a visit to the Grand Canyon and exploring it for the first time32800:24:03,000 –> 00:24:03,880I mean32900:24:03,880 –> 00:24:09,219I guess you could hike down and you’d get a sense of the depth of the canyon you could drive around the rim33000:24:09,219 –> 00:24:11,479You’d get a sense of the length of it33100:24:11,699 –> 00:24:14,300But perhaps the best way to get an overall33200:24:14,839 –> 00:24:20,040Sense of the vastness and beauty of the Grand Canyon would be to take a flight over it33300:24:20,040 –> 00:24:24,040now when it comes to the Bible to get a high-altitude33400:24:25,020 –> 00:24:30,599Overview of what the Bible’s story is all about seems to me to be the best place to begin33500:24:30,880 –> 00:24:34,040The Bible really is one story. It begins in a garden33600:24:34,040 –> 00:24:37,479It ends in a city and all the way through it’s about the Lord Jesus Christ33700:24:38,180 –> 00:24:42,579Flying through the Bible is kind of cookies on the bottom shelf to change the analogy33800:24:42,760 –> 00:24:49,260It gives an overall picture and introduction to the Scripture that I hope will help and encourage33900:24:49,640 –> 00:24:52,719People to want to explore more when they get on the ground34000:24:53,119 –> 00:24:57,920Well, we’d love to send you a copy of Collins book flying through the Bible to say34100:24:57,920 –> 00:24:58,359Thank you34200:24:58,359 –> 00:25:04,660for setting up a new direct debit to the work of open the Bible in the amount of five pounds per month or more34300:25:04,660 –> 00:25:07,339or a one-off gift of 50 pounds or more34400:25:07,339 –> 00:25:13,500this month full terms and conditions are on our website at openthebible.org34500:25:14,060 –> 00:25:16,760UK and you can give online34600:25:17,400 –> 00:25:24,079For open the Bible and pastor Colin Smith, I’m David Pick and I hope you’ll join us again next time on open the Bible34700:25:24,400 –> 00:25:26,400You34800:25:30,859 –> 00:25:37,640Why does hell have to be forever find out what the Bible says next time on open the Bible

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